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Lewis Cawte
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Welcome, Lcawte, to ShoutWiki Hub!

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Issues on some articles in s:w:fr.24[edit]

Hi Lewis,
I have an error message like this on some page on s:w:fr.24. When I look for s:w:fr.24:Victor Rovner or s:w:fr.24:Jeff Ricketts (available articles in the wiki), I find this:
French 24 error message.png
Do you know the issue, and more, can you fix it please? Thank you for your reply. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 16:02, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Extension Request: Story Paragraph[edit]

Arcane gave me a good idea for my site, and he also helped develop it. I know this extension is beta, but could you please install the extension Story Paragraph on The link for this extension is DJ m0m0 (talk) 20:01, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Install[edit] hi lcawte may you add this to the repository as i would love this on my wiki. --N64dude (talk) 18:48, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


Lcawte DISPLAYTITLE doesn't seem to work on my wiki. --N64dude (talk) 00:45, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean? What happens when you try to use that magic word? What do you think that should happen?
DISPLAYTITLE is restricted by default — that is, custom titles must normalize to the same page title. So if you have a page about the cell phone manufactured by Apple, you could use {{DISPLAYTITLE:iPhone}} on that page to render its title "correctly", because for MediaWiki (and especially in its default configuration), "iPhone" and "IPhone" are the same title. But you can't change the title of the iPhone page to "Apple iPhone" with DISPLAYTITLE, because whereas "iPhone" and "IPhone" normalize to the same title, "Apple iPhone" doesn't.
Some wikis have a template, usually named Template:Title, which requires additional JavaScript code to work. This template allows to change the title of a page to any arbitrary name, but honestly, that's a pretty scary ability, as it tends to confuse people. With DISPLAYTITLE and its default restrictions, it should be relatively obvious what the page's real name is and thus you'll know how to link to it. But what about if the page is called "IPhone" but its title is displayed as "The best cell phone ever"? Yep, many users would try linking to [[The best cell phone ever]] and then wonder why it isn't working...
In any case, if you need either the DISPLAYTITLE restrictions lifted and/or help with implementing Template:Title for your wiki, let me know. --Jack Phoenix ShoutWiki Staff (contact) 12:49, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Can you help to implement it on my wiki please. --N64dude (talk) 17:07, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

By your wiki do you mean s:w:en.userwiki? I'm asking to make sure that I have the correct wiki; many ShoutWiki editors are active on multiple wikis and there are several prominent users who have started multiple wikis on ShoutWiki, too, and in such cases, it's not obvious what wiki or wikis they mean. ;-) --Jack Phoenix ShoutWiki Staff (contact) 20:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes Jack thats my wiki. --N64dude (talk) 19:27, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

All done, enjoy! --Jack Phoenix ShoutWiki Staff (contact) 20:03, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Jack :D --N64dude (talk) 23:13, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Can't make site backup[edit]

  • I'm not sure if you are the one to turn to with this, but the button to make a backup on the statistics page on my wiki is suddenly gone... Could you help me out? Also, Jack once made a backup for all the images for me too and that is also gone... Thanks in advance. Busey.pngoddguyBusey.png 16:43, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the multiple uploads problem[edit]

I uploaded multiple images at once without problems today. Thanks, --Timeshifter (talk) 16:47, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Old request: Semantic MediaWiki[edit]

Hi Lewis,
I would like to ask you about an old Bugzilla request for upgrading Semantic MediaWiki. I know you've been quite busy recently, yet I think it should be great to update the SMW version up to 2.0 (last one). The actual ShoutWiki SMW version ( has some issues, especially counting some property pages on statistics and I saw issues on Concept pages. Thank you for your answer. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 11:29, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

We'll look into doing this now we've just upgraded to 1.24. --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 16:14, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much. As tested in a personal home wiki, it seems that unlike the previous versions, the 2.0 installation is specific for each wiki. You'll have to use Composer separately for each Semantic wiki. Installation seems quite, simple, may be the upgrade is a little bit more complicated. Cheers --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 21:27, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Lewis, just a reminder as there are some updating issues with this version of SMW; properties appear then disappear with no apparent reason. Even if I do an Edit/Save without modification, the issue still exists. The SMW version is now 2.3, according to the main SMW wiki site. Thank you very much. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 11:36, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


Hello, this message, already I it put to Cook, but it has not answered, like that that I you put to you, I suppose that your, you will not be inactive, Cook, this one inactively for time.

1 Vandal one (I am sure that it is only, because his IP address changes, but not for ranges, sinó that changes it with a program that surely he arranges in his computer.) there is vandalizado the page of Jack Phoenix's discussion and they are different IP'S, not for ranges, because the range is different, sinó because they are programmed by the computer of the user, this already goes from bad to worse, because, when the users, undo the editions, it returns to vandalizar. The content that it has put till now, for vandaliar is " Very nice site " or something like that, then, I ask for help him with this, because this one Problem, already multiplying this one (I want décir, that the vandalism repeating itself) and I ask for a checkup him to the IP'S that exist vandalizado, to see if my suspicions are true (my suspicions they are that it treats itself of same it presents, only that programming in the computer multiple IP'S) or that treats itself about another person. In this case, I ask for a solution him, I suggest him: 1-In the case of which my suspicions are accepted, so, would be necessary to go blocking the IP'S while they continue appearing, because in another wiki, I pass that a blocked IP, he said to me that IP and I was programming I suppose that he programmes them with his computer, there must be programs like that. Also I ask you, that pìense another solution, if the mia does not prove (I it created that if, that there will be another solution). 2-En the case of which they are different persons, also I ask you to think a solution and I think the same one that in the first case.Thanks in advance--Libros (talk) 17:40, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Staff members[edit]

Staff members, does not publish much. What happens?. Thanks in advance--Libros (talk) 16:52, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Re: Job e-mail[edit]

I agree in how you do things. --DeviantSalens 17:42, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Would you rename me?[edit]

Hi Jack Lcawte,
would you rename me "鯉色マッリ"(Carp-Marisa) to "カルサヴァ" in both ShoutWiki and my wiki? Because present name may cause some trouble between me and user of the site.--T-カルサヴァ (talk) 09:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC) - rewrite T-カルサヴァ (talk) 09:05, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I wrote from different account. T-カルサヴァ and I are same for the reason that I couldn't change name, I took new account. --Carp-Marisa(鯉色マッリ) - talk 10:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

※This massage is written again from Jack Phoenix's talkpage. Because he has left from about 2 weeks ago.

No. Unfortunately we are not currently able to rename accounts. For now the only thing you can do is make a new account. If you want Steward rights switched to this new account, let our support team know by using Special:Contact. --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 09:26, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Rights transfer[edit]

Hi Lewis, following our emails (Re: BrunelRacing / WomenInEngineering Wiki's [#1351]), I'm writing to confirm I am the account holder of User:Andyli95. Please remove/transfer the rights from this user to admin-br if possible please? Thanks, Andy Li 13:29, 26 January 2015 (GMT)

Bad Webcomics Wiki[edit]

Bad Webcomics Wiki is getting seriously hit with pagemove vandalism still. Any chance you can revert it all and maybe put a lock on page moving for the moment? Maybe even promote someone to admin so they can fix it faster? DentsAndDings (talk) 23:11, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Most of the admins are still active, including Oddguy. You should ask him if you want admin rights... --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 23:18, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
The last one was a joke suggestion, but if you could kindly help me in reverting the mess since both admins are offline and the vandalism is still progressing. DentsAndDings (talk) 23:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the help, but could you make it possible for people to edit again? You made it so that only admins can edit. I asked Jack a few days ago but he hasn't responded. Also, there is something wrong with the sidebar. It doesn't look the way I set it to look. Busey.pngoddguyBusey.png 10:07, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
    • You need to be more patient. We're looking at taking backups and things so that if the same thing happens as it did last time, we can rollback the site quicker. The sidebar is an issue that I've requested someone look into. --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 14:59, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks and sorry. I'm nagging you because my users are nagging me. I'll tell them to calm down and wait. Busey.pngoddguyBusey.png 22:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Sidebar is fixed fyi. Memcached went away rather stealthily. --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 22:41, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Independent domain[edit]

Hi, I have bought the domain and currently it is forwarded to I would like to use as THE domain for my wiki. Please let me know what should I do. -- Muhammad2017 (talk) 09:46, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Presumably help with spam?[edit]

Special:Log --Saftzie (talk) 18:57, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Would you still be able to?[edit]

Hey, would you still be able to help me with this issue? I know I am responding late, but I've tried fixing it myself, but it is clear I am missing some kind of template installation that is not letting the (Hide/Show) option happen on infoboxes, etc.? MusicNation (talk) 19:50, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps mw:ResourceLoader/Modules#jquery.makeCollapsible has the info you need. --Saftzie (talk) 20:31, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
How might I go about installing that, then? I mean, I put all of the Hidden/Hidden top and Collape/Collapse top, etc. templates on my Wiki and it still is not working. MusicNation (talk) 20:47, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
There's nothing to install. It's provided by default in MediaWiki. As Lcawte asked before, a link to a page where you think it's broken would help a lot. --Saftzie (talk) 20:48, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
This template is where it does not work, for one. And then there are others, but I would assume if that one gets fixed, the others would, as well. MusicNation (talk) 21:07, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Try now. --Saftzie (talk) 21:09, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Excellent. I will apply this to other templates now! Thank you! MusicNation (talk) 21:12, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
NP. --Saftzie (talk) 21:13, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Do you mind telling me where I'd install it on this template? MusicNation (talk) 21:15, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
In class="tracklist {{#ifeq: {{{collapsed}}}|yes|collapsible collapsed}}", where collapsible collapsed are used as classes, change them to mw-collapsible mw-collapsed. {{{collapsed}}} is a replaceable parameter name, so that stays as it is, unless you want to change it. Collapsible content works on elements specified with those classes. mw:ResourceLoader/Modules#jquery.makeCollapsible has more info if you want to get trickier. --Saftzie (talk) 21:49, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Again, thank you so much! Those two templates were pissing me off without collapsing! You are a miracle worker! MusicNation (talk) 22:02, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

A little thing.[edit]


this user is admin on this wiki (ShoutWiki Hub). And my question is:

Can you giff me the admin right please?

I can help:

PD: On the past, I used the account Libros, and I can help with the wiki.

(I change my account beccause in shoutwiki IS NOT POSSIBLE rename accounts).


--Pastelerohelper92 (talk) 08:57, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

API returns invalid date format[edit]

I know you really don't need another problem right now, but using the API to query the recent block

returns a non-ISO time for blockexpiry, "20160818213400" instead of "2016-08-18T21:34:00Z". I haven't checked an exhaustive list (or other blocks), but the other timestamp in the same API (blockedtimestamp) returns an ISO time. Before the upgrade/rollback, both times were ISO, as I believe they're intended to be. --Saftzie (talk) 22:59, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I'm wondering if knowing this helps figure out (part of) what went wrong. --Saftzie (talk) 23:16, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
I went digging around the API some more. It seems not-ISO for that value is consistent with other MW versions. Oh, well. --Saftzie (talk) 12:04, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

OVH Montreal[edit] reverse resolves to hosted in OVH's Montreal data center with a DNS authority and has been the source of IP spam in the past. I'm kind of wondering what the story is there. --Saftzie (talk) 12:07, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

We actively spam ourselves to see how alive our community is. I'm not actually sure, but I'm going to have a guess and hope I remember to file a Phabricator task about it when I get back from work. It may be that the anonymous spammer is using HTTPS, which is the only reason I can think of for it to go through Chirp. We've had some email spam from Vertex before, although this was through one of the forms so I guess it needs a little more validation as the address was probably just random@vertexsIPgoeshere. With this case, it would make sense if the IP header isn't getting forwarded somewhere in the horrible chain of servers for HTTPS requests
User (DNS, etc) -> Vertex (HTTPS forwarding) -> Chirp (SSL Termination) -> Vertex (Varnish) -> Monolith (Backend) -> Grunt (Database) -> User (Browser)
It was initially set up as a test, and has been a sort of hidden feature for most wikis for a while. Once we sort out how we deal with the remaining issue (, I'll probably move it to Vertex as it makes more sense. I'll have to look more into the forwarding theory, though... --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 12:37, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
This pretty much confirms my suspicions. --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 12:51, 4 October 2016 (UTC)


Who's the CEO of shoutwiki? Jello chitchat! 03:07, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

No CEO. Two directors. --Saftzie (talk) 04:01, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
As the very resourceful Saftzie said - we don't have a CEO. The company has two people legally responsible for looking after it, but we have no appointed head other than when required by our articles in our board meetings. Our board chair alternates each meeting.
Is there any particular reason you ask? If you need to discuss something regarding the company, you can email me (or Richard). If I think it needs to be referred to Richard, I can sort that out, etc.
--Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 01:25, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
I was mostly just wondering, thanks --Twilight~Sparkle This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 23:45, 15 December 2016 (UTC)


Hi Lcawte, I'm having problems editing on my account Castaway2000 because every time I try and hit the edit button it doesn't work. It makes no sense to me, and is beyond frustrating. I was referred to you by Rock-O-Jello because you're one of the directors here.

But when I edit with my IP I don't get this error. it makes zero sense. 00:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

OK, I forgot to add more details but what adds to the confusion is that 30 minutes ago I could message Saftzie, and now I cannot because of stupid "Session timeout" errors. See this image, because I keep getting this error on my Castaway2000 account: 00:43, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Adoption request[edit]

Mind looking over my adopt request for AWA please? This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 00:42, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Cook Isn't Responding[edit]

I didn't understand what Cook879 meant when he said "ping me when you've made a database dump". Did he meant by email or talk page? I did say I made a database dump, but yeah. Castaway2000 (talk) 02:01, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, but he probably meant by email ( --This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 17:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Wiki deletion[edit]

Hey, Lcawte, could you do me a favor and delete please? --This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 17:12, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

I went ahead and deleted spongefan.shoutwiki for you, it's removed from ShoutWiki now. :-) SamanthaNguyen (talk) 22:29, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


Hi, could you please add this extension so that others can use a special page to create articles on Green Day Wiki? Thanks. Castaway2000 (talk) 19:56, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

As someone who spent a fair amount of time working on the CreateAPage extension back in the day, I can assure you it's not coming back anytime soon. The code is very ugly and buggy and the upload form stuff hasn't worked properly in years. Sorry. :-/ --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 08:39, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


Testing per request SamanthaNguyen (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 00:26, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Deletion forum[edit]

Hey Lwcate! I was wondering why you deleted this ( without leaving any explanation? I explained that I contacted support to delete the wikis placed on the forum page as well, but I still have no response.

--JoshuaTheRoman (talk) 21:36, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Question concerning Module:Lua[edit]

I had a question about Module:Lua, which is in-use on the main Wikipedia database. I understand this module — mostly used in the cases of infobox templates — was, at least for a short interim period, used here at ShoutWiki. However, I am also aware it was disabled, due to the ShoutWIki servers being unable to handle what the module called for. While I am sure there are no immediate plans to re-install the module, I did read that [some] ShoutWiki databases could have it installed. I was wondering: is there a downside to this happening? Like, does it crash the selected Wiki, due to [potential] instability? and, also, is there any potential of it coming back full-time to the ShoutWiki database? Thank you for your time! MusicNation (talk) 16:54, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

ShoutWiki uses Scribunto to implement Lua. If you don't have it on your wiki, you can ask for it. --Saftzie (talk) 21:19, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Is it stable enough once implemented on a specific Wiki, or is it something that is discouraged against because it can crash the Wiki? MusicNation (talk) 00:51, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
It's very stable and quite common. It's also what Wikipedia uses. There's a good chance it's already on your wiki, but if it's not, you can have it added. --Saftzie (talk) 07:00, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
I know it isn't, because a lot of the Lua modules do not work. Who do I potentially see about having it installed, and once it's installed, if I choose to, can I have it removed? MusicNation (talk) 03:18, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Scribunto is a globally enabled extension on ShoutWiki. If your modules aren't working these days, it's probably an issue with the Lua code itself. --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 04:39, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Damn, really? That sucks. Guess I'll have to go into my code and try to figure out how to fix these a bit... and see if that works, then! MusicNation (talk) 13:23, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Forum:Need to change text for entire wiki[edit]

Thank you Lewis for the assistance.

I sent you an invite to my wiki page.

An example of the issue I'm referring to is on this page:

The numbering of the contents have a very dark gray background with black text. This is a terrible contrast, I can barely see the numbers. I would like to change the number text to white. Pikazilla (talk) 14:48, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Pikazilla, I've changed the coloring of the numbers in the table of contents for you to white. I noticed you've now started signing your comments which is much appreciated. I meant for you to leave a message on your wiki as opposed to hub, but anyway. A further tip if you continue to use other ShoutWiki sites, is that when linking you can use interwiki links, for example a link to that page using an interwiki link is [[s:sultans:Elena Alaxandria|whatever text you wish to show as the link]] ---Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 15:26, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Forgot to add, you may need to do a hard refresh as the CSS is likely cached in your browser. --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 15:26, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
It worked, than you Lewis. I'll let you know if I have any future issues. Pikazilla (talk) 15:35, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Bar Chart Issue[edit]

Hello again Lewis. I'm trying to create a chart to mimic the example on Wikipedia:

The link to my wiki page is here:

Please see what you can do to get the chart to work; I've tried everything with no success.Pikazilla (talk) 15:13, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Join to help ShoutWiki[edit]

‎Can I join to ShoutWiki Staff group for help to other users? I'm a Web Developer and can speak to Persian, Arabic and English. Can I? SkyHelper (talk) 16:20, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[edit]

i'll continue the conversation here. how do we fix the wiki? it's been broken for about a year now Castaway2000 (talk) 14:23, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

2MB limit[edit]

How do we increase the filesize limit for Conker Wiki? there's some files i want to upload. I suggest maybe 5MB or 10MB. Castaway2000 (talk) 11:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)


Would you please give me Bureaucrat rights on this wiki? Thanks --Vlad26t (talk) 06:36, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

How to use Whitelist[edit]

Hello! You told me to use the extension Whitelist, to make some pages of my private wiki readable by anyone, or a group of users. But could you explain me how to use it? I didn't find it by myself. (you can message me on my page)

Thank you.

--PERCE-NEIGE (talk) 15:02, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Spam accounts started daily on my wiki[edit]

Thanks for your work. I don't know if this is where I should discuss this. I am getting spam accounts started daily. I delete them every day or every other day, and block the user names for a month. That seems to be long enough to prevent reuse.

Is there any way to filter this? I don't want to block good users. I get a rare few who register so that they have the possibility to edit the 2019 page via a specially created user right just to edit the 2019 page:

Maybe the addition of links to user pages could be blocked until the user meets a minimum number of non-deleted edits?

Or maybe user page creation could be blocked altogether until a minimum amount of time passes. A couple weeks maybe.

User registration could occur right away, but not user page creation for awhile. And then no links until another couple weeks passes.

Maybe this could be suggested to Mediawiki developers.

The multi-step process could be built into Mediawiki. So no work would be required of admins on wikis. It would be automatic. It would be much rarer to see spam links since spammers would have to go through a multi-stage process for a single spam link.

The time period could be set to vary automatically. Or an option to choose the time period could be given to wiki admins. This would help thwart any auto-timing software attempted by spammers. --Timeshifter (talk) 07:30, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Rather than core MediaWiki, it would be better to put such functionality in an extension. In fact, the capability (and much more) is already in the AbuseFilter extension, which is already installed on your wiki. --Saftzie (talk) 08:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
I did an advanced search of everything in my wiki for 'extension' and 'abusefilter'. It did not show up.
--Timeshifter (talk) 10:23, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
OK. I see it listed in Special:Version. A long time since I have been there. I had forgotten. Maybe put "extensions" in the sidebar under tools by default. More admins would be made aware of these tools. --Timeshifter (talk) 10:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Protect your user page[edit]

Hi, Lewis! I'm Dove. I have noticed that your user page has been vandalized many times by disruptive I.P. addresses. Whilst I was looking at your user page history, I recommend that it gets protected to prevent it from happening again in the nearby future. It basically makes it much easier and less worrying to deal with. Plus, staff user pages should be protected anyway, right? Hope it helps! MinecraftFan (talk) 19:04, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

3 times in 9 years is a very low vandalism rate... --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 19:12, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I suppose. But still... I'd protect it, just in case. MinecraftFan (talk) 20:51, 16 March 2019 (UTC)