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Blog[edit]

Wanna adopt a wiki[edit]

Hello! I'd like to adopt the wiki at epapedia.shoutwiki.com, because the admin of the wiki has last edited more than 600 days ago. How can I adopt it? Joona (talk)

[edit]

I created a good logo for my wiki, called Wiki.png. I uploaded it, but the wiki doesn't make it the logo, it just keeps the default logo. What can I do to use my logo? Please answer as soon as possible. Joona (talk) 13:53, 2 July 2015 (UTC) Gonna take a while, just keep on waiting. In fact, it possibly already changed now.--Odiswhips (talk) 20:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Confirmation Mail[edit]

Hey there, i created an account 2 hours ago and even Resend the notification mail again, but still nothing in my inbox. How long does it take to get an email to finally confirm my account?

Age[edit]

Hi, I'm JaggerTheDog, why's there a age limit? Because, my friend has set up a wiki and he apologised that people below the age thirteen can not edit. Is it okay if I broke this rule? The wiki is just a wiki about speculative biology, thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaggerTheDog (talkcontribs) 09:27, 3 December 2013. Please sign your posts with --~~~~!

It's due to a United States federal law called Children's Online Privacy Protection Act, or just COPPA. Read the linked Wikipedia article for more info.
When you created your ShoutWiki user account, you had to check a little box indicating that you're over 13 years of age and that you've read and agree to be bound by the ShoutWiki terms of use. If you didn't read the terms of use carefully at that point, maybe now would be a good time to. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 21:41, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Blog[edit]

Hi there ShoutWiki. I am Shrev64, an active admin on the Sly Cooper Wiki. I got an email about a monaco skin for the wiki. It said for more info, click on the blog for the Shout Wiki about 2010. (it says at the top of every page "Monaco skin now available on ShoutWiki! For more information, see our blog post." I click on the "blog post" link, but it turns out it is broken. Can anyone please help? Thank you! 174.23.149.168 01:16, 4 January 2011 (UTC)Shrev64

Here's the blog post. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 07:20, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Upgrade[edit]

Hi, It's seems the MediaWiki Version is now 1.16, right? --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 05:58, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, our version is 1.16.0, look here. Misiek (talk) 07:46, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Well it says 1.15 on the main page. Should be changed.--Hockeyben (talk) 13:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Updated. Thanks, — LyntonShoutWiki Staff talkemail 15:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Wiki creation[edit]

Como se crea un wiki diganme!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 190.22.85.17 (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts with --~~~~!

Google Translation: "How to create a wiki tell me"
You will need to create an account first, then you can access the CreateWiki tool. — LyntonShoutWiki Staff talkemail 01:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Protection[edit]

This page is sure being vandalized a lot. Maybe it should be semi-protected?--Hockeyben (talk) 13:41, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

We have considered doing that, but won't for now because the spam isn't too difficult to manage and it helps us track the IPs across other wikis. We also don't want to impede usage of this page by new users who find their way here to ask questions. — LyntonShoutWiki Staff talkemail 14:53, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Quality database dumps and quality community forums[edit]

Hi. I wrote some comments to these blog posts: [1] [2].

I may get fed up enough with Wikia someday to want to go through the stress and hassle of forking/moving to another wiki farm. Many other admins and bureaucrats are ready to fork now. But I would want a wiki farm with quality database dumps and quality community forums.

I don't see database dumps nor community forums mentioned on the Shoutwiki home page: shoutwiki.com. That is the first place I looked. Most people, in my opinion, will look there and no further. Both of those things are essential to safely move to another wiki farm.

I would never risk losing a wiki due to lack of my own backup via a database dump that any admin of the wiki could get at anytime. I don't know if the database dumps here at Shoutwiki cover everything or not. Or at least everything except the images. I don't know if the dumps are easily imported into other standard MediaWiki-based wiki farms. I don't even know is there is a standard MediaWiki database dump, and standard database import method. This is very important info considering that wiki farms come and go, or are down for long periods of time. Standard mediawiki-based wiki farms seem to be difficult beasts to maintain. I have no idea. I eventually found this here: Help:Database download. It does not address most of these questions.

I know from experience at Wikia, Wikipedia, the Commons, other wikis, Meta, Strategy, Wikibooks, etc. that without quality centralized forums one can not solve problems fast.

I like the Wikia forums that are based on the DPLforum extension. It is listed here:

English Wikipedia Village Pumps are OK, too, though not as good as DPLforum on Wikia, or the subpage-based forums on Portuguese Wikipedia. See: this discussion and its subsections. --Timeshifter (talk) 21:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Timeshifter,
Stewards can get an instant database dump every week, which contains everything a standard database dump would include (a full list can be found here). As per the standard MediaWiki dump, media files are not included. (Note that for importing wikis we can use a script that will re-upload all the images from your previous host for you)
As for highlighting this information, I'll be sure to update our features page, linked from the homepage twice, with this and any other new feature information. Thanks also for pointing out the incompleteness of Help:Database download - I'll be sure to update it with more information tomorrow.
As for forums, we have the DPLForum extension available on request. Admittedly this is not mentioned anywhere (to my knowledge). We used to have WikiForum as our main forum extension, but we've recently dropped support for it, hence the lack of forums on many wikis.
It should be noted that providing an extension is not a security or resource issue, and it's compatible with ShoutWiki, we'll most likely be willing to enable it for you.
Hope this answers all your questions,
--Cook879 ShoutWiki Staff talk 22:07, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
I am back. :) I had to look up what a steward is. Help:Group rights. I am a bureaucrat-admin on a Wikia wiki. On Wikia any logged-in user can go to Special:Statistics on any wiki and click a link to request a database dump for that wiki. A bot sets up download links for the large and small dumps for that wiki in around a day. I suggest doing it the same way on Shoutwiki. Then people would feel safer working on Shoutwiki. Because any user would know their work can be backed up regularly, and is portable. Without having to ask permission. I would back up once a month, and would not like having to bug someone once a month. A bot doing it prevents this problem.
About forums. A local forum on my wiki would get very little action. I was talking about a central forum for all Shoutwiki wikis. As at the central forums and village pumps at Wikia, Wikipedia, Commons, etc..
I would not think to look on the features page for info about importing a Wikia wiki. By the way, I see no info on that on the features page: ShoutWiki features.
Cook879. You wrote: "for importing wikis we can use a script that will re-upload all the images from your previous host for you." That is good to know. I have all the images of interest backed up for my Wikia wiki. They are all named with the same name as on the wiki. Would the script know how to categorize them? I assume the database dumps include all the image page texts and categories. --Timeshifter (talk) 03:34, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi Timeshifter. Unfortunately due to the current method of database dumping it is not practical to allow any user to download a database dump.
As for a ShoutWiki forum, we shall consider it for the future. Thanks for the input.
Opps, I forgot to add it - it's there now!
Yes, the file pages will be imported, with history and all, with a standard database dump, while our script will upload the files to the previous names.
Best regards,--Cook879 ShoutWiki Staff talk 14:45, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

(unindent). As I now have a wiki on Shoutwiki I can point people to Special:Statistics on any wiki. On my wiki: Special:Statistics. See the bottom of the page. The steward (me) can initiate a new dump there. It is usually created immediately. Anybody can click the link to download the last dump. --Timeshifter (talk) 09:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

1.20[edit]

When will you guys be upgrading to 1.20? --George (talk) 09:52, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi George, this Facebook post answers that.--Cook879 ShoutWiki Staff talk 10:19, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Now, it's done, so can you please update the Main page section (still 1.19)? --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 14:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Of course, thanks for the heads up LIMAFOX76 :)--Cook879 ShoutWiki Staff talk 17:23, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

shout wiki[edit]

Hi all, dont know if its the best place to comment, but I very much like this site and now a question, respondanla on my talk page, wikivisión (wiki which acted as administrator) has died its founder, died OLA K ASE (the founder I mentioned) because of a crash. MY question is how do I remove the powers, did not know he died until I was told but I suspected that since llevava time unedited. And as this dead lock I guess we should also globally to prevent the account is utilizaza by third parties. Regards and again, please respond on my talk page.Nacion del fuego100 (talk) 10:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

See User talk:Jack Phoenix#Help. --Timeshifter (talk) 09:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.22[edit]

Can a sysop update the main page as we are now using the 1.22 MediaWiki release?
Thank you very much. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 11:03, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Updated, thanks for the reminder! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 21:41, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Pay[edit]

Is there a fee for publices you own wiki?, please answers--Seslowin (talk) 17:19, 19 December 2013 (UTC).

No; using ShoutWiki is free. We have some optional paid features, such as the ad-free hosting plan, but all basic features are free to use and will remain so. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 21:41, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you--Seslowin (talk) 21:51, 21 December 2013 (UTC).
But I do not understand, is there a way of promoting the free wiki?, I say ShoutWiki operates wikis low quality, did not create it, I hope answers please--Seslowin (talk) 00:41, 25 December 2013 (UTC).

1.24[edit]

Hi, it seems you have upgraded to the 1.24 MediaWiki version. May be it's time to update the news section... ;-). I can't do it by myself. Cheers --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Cheers for the heads-up :)--Cook879 ShoutWiki Staff talk 00:22, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

1.25[edit]

Hi, same as last section, the wiki is released in 1.25 MediaWiki version. And I still can't modify it on the English version. Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 10:55, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Can't verified my email on the Phabricator[edit]

It does not appear in my email, even if it's the same email name I use. Help? --Mar8122 (talk) 20:12, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

About my wiki[edit]

I have a wiki called Toxic Fandoms and Hatedoms wiki: http://toxicfanhate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page

It neer gave me admin access when I made it and there is a vandal problem going on right now and I need admin access.

Pacsonic (talk) 20:25, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

You should probably email troppusmoc.ikiwtuohs. Admin rights not being given is a known problem, which is why CreateWiki is currently disabled. --miki-- (talk) 23:51, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
@--miki--: I did multiple times but never heard back. Pacsonic (talk) 00:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

questio[edit]

is this site even alive anymore 178.135.0.22

Does question have an 'n' in it? --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 12:42, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Question regarding support ticket response time and defunct admin accounts[edit]

Greetings, I sent in a couple of support tickets earlier this week - its been five days. The thing is, a wiki that I am a community member of, the the BadWebcomicsWiki had its admin hacked recently. Now, the hacker gained control of our forum and just destroyed it, but seems to have ignored our wiki (thank god), but following this we've found out that the now former admin doesn't want to be admin anymore, and isn't responding to any communication.

So our problem is basically: we don't have an admin - but we do have an active mod who is willing to take that responsibility - and I have sent support tickets regarding things, but how long should I expect it to take before this can be acted upon? The more time that passes, we risk the hacker discovering the wiki and destroying it as well. We need the torch passed, but the old admin can't be reached -- Webkilla 05:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Emailing staff at troppusmoc.ikiwtuohs is probably the fastest way to get their attention. --Saftzie (talk) 17:56, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
The average support ticket reply time is... months at this point. That's because I'm the only person that looks at them, and doing a final year at University + working somewhere close to full time in customer service during a COVID pandemic leaves me with less than enough time to sleep as it is, without all the other stuff I have to for ShoutWiki and other places. Ok, excuses out the way.
Tickets do get read, and the vast majority of non-spam/sales emails are what I'd class as lowest priority (wiki deletions are rarely urgent - abandoned (private) wikis aren't hugely taxing on us, and we'll delete them eventually, probably in a big batch, etc for those that read this) so don't get a reply "quickly". I did read your ticket the day it came in, but, I'd been at an industry show, and due to what I'm about to say, wasn't a huge priority at the time. It was on my list to sort this weekend anyway. I know you're panicking, but, please don't. There are no indications the flagged account has been compromised at ShoutWiki, which I suspect is due to follow good personal account security principles (unique passwords, and if you're likely to be a target, using various email accounts). Should it get compromised, we are watching this wiki, and we'll sort the damage out. We're not in the habit of pre-emptively blocking/disabling accounts on speculation, particularly in more "controversial" sites.
So, on to the next point - "the old admin". Which one? There's almost a dozen with the ability to add user rights. One of them has edited recently, so they're still active. In the event, you can't get one of those admins to grant you rights and they don't reply to your request (in a place that we can see it) that indicates support or opposition to your admin request in a week or two, file a adoption request. Please note that this wiki's informal grandfathering arrangement under our Content Policy is going to be phased out and I'll be looking to send any admin a list of amendments that get flagged by our advertising partners. --Lewis Cawte (talk) ShoutWiki Staff 10:53, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you - I didn't know those things. And ya, it seems that the hacker only destroyed our forum (which we've thankfully gotten restored at this point) - I've contacted our one remaining sort-of active mod/admin, will see what happens from there. --Webkilla (talk) 07:13, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

When are you going to fix the wiki making thing?[edit]

??? VFW-icon.pngV.F.Wyyzrd (T - C)

It will be fixed when staff has time for it. --miki-- (talk) 00:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
It'll be fixed as a part of the MediaWiki 1.35 upgrade.
To be precise, we've identified the original underlying issue which messed up things and fixed that, but MediaWiki 1.34 is EOL and the 1.35 upgrade is somewhat delayed, but given that 1.35 is a long-term support (LTS) release and we expect to be running it for quite some time, that's our main focus.
I can only apologize, for it took way too long to initially track down that pesky bug, let alone fix it; taking the Wiki Creation Wizard offline for this long was never on the roadmap, it's just an unfortunate thing that happened (because the alternative—keeping it online—would have resulted in literal data loss, again, due to the bug in question). --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 09:49, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
It seems they're now offline then...Looking forward to creating a wiki here. GT610 (talk) 16:02, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

When is the Wiki Creator gonna be back up???[edit]

Please figure SO?METHING OUT HERE, cause I wanna start creating wikis...

Also...

  1. Please don't limit the number of wikis people can make.
  2. Please find a way to get the update by with out removing data stuff

Thanx VFW-icon.pngV.F.Wyyzrd (T - C)

Well, the Wiki Creator Wizard will be back up when the 1.35 upgrade is complete. As for an estimate on when that'll be done, you'll have to ask a ShoutWiki staff member. Tali64^2 (talk) 02:28, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Estimate on when the WCW will be back[edit]

Hey. I'm new to this site, and I just wanted to ask if there's a time estimate on when the Wiki Creation Wizard will come back? I know it'll come back when this site's updated to 1.35, but all I ask is a time estimate. Thanks. --Historia-KQ (talk) 23:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Main Page talk is for discussing the Main Page. For topics of general discussion, please use the Forums. --Saftzie (talk) 21:54, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

MediaWiki will be upgraded to 1.35[edit]

As you know. ShoutWiki will be upgrading to 1.35 in February 2022. this problem was that 1.35 is a outdated version, the latest version of MediaWiki is 1.37, ShoutWiki will upgrade to the latest version. Beckham Wong (talk) 21:15, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

This was previously discussed on Forum:MediaWiki should be upgraded to 1.37. Wait, did you just copy your message from there and change some things? Anyway, this page is not meant for general discussion about ShoutWiki. --miki-- (talk) 22:18, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Both versions are not yet outdated. Even if 1.37 is newer than 1.35, 1.37 will outdate earlier than 1.35. See mw:Version lifecycle, in the future, we will no longer use short-term-support versions, but only long-term-support versions. 82.82.105.119 19:46, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

This site is still alive?[edit]

I want to know if this site is still alive. I see few events in recent changes, the Create wiki wizard hasn't worked for months (you can't create a wiki). Site practically abandoned. I got kicked out of Miraheze for 3 months, which is the only wiki farm that works. I'm not going to FANDOM because it's terrible and full of ads. Only ShoutWiki (for host wiki temporary) is left which has ads, but at least MediaWiki theme, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work and seems abandoned. Note: irritating abuse filters smell that won't let me save my edit and this site is full of bugs / glitches and errors YellowFrogger (talk) 02:45, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

@YellowFrogger: You're able to edit, aren't you? So that alone should answer your main question, but let me confirm it just for the record: yes, ShoutWiki is very much alive and not going anywhere anytime soon (as far as we are aware of, that is).
As much as anyone else dislikes the current situation, so do I. Turning off a mission-critical feature was not and is not something that was done lightly; it was literally done to prevent nearly impossible-to-recover data corruption. (Having fixed that issue, I know what I'm talking about. Full public write-up is available at ShoutWiki Hub talk:2021 Data Recovery.)
The Wiki Creation Wizard will be operational once we're on MediaWiki 1.35, which is our main priority right now.
Ads are an unfortunate thing that we have to tolerate to keep the lights on. We're happy to turn them off for your wiki for a small fee; email supportshoutwiki.com (or contact Lcawte directly) about that.
I'd be curious to know why you got the impression that the site is abandoned, because it couldn't be further from the truth. For some reason people tend to keep to their own wikis and not really edit much, if at all, here on ShoutWiki Hub, but I guess it's one of those "no news is good news" issues. Software bugs should be reported on our Phabricator at https://phabricator.shoutwiki.com/ to ensure proper tracking and prioritization.
As for abuse filters, what issues are you having with those? (You can email us at the aforementioned email address for more details if you so desire.) Saftzie can probably help with those. As with all anti-spam/anti-abuse tools, these mechanisms are an annoying necessity on sites that allow contributions from the public without any sort of "pre-publish" moderation; such as wikis, guestbooks, blogs, forums and the like.
In general, the anti-abuse filters only tend to effect anonymous users and very new user accounts; once you're an estabilished user you'll get the "autoconfirmed" ("automatically confirmed", i.e. presumed to be human who's acting in good faith) status which allows you to get past said filters. Of course, like with all software, bugs are inevitable for software is written by people and people are not infallible, so I'd be more than happy to assist you with your filter issues.
Given that abuse filters are a per-wiki thing and usually maintained by the communities of each wiki as opposed to ShoutWiki staff, I'd also like to know more about the other bugs/glitches/oddities you've run into so that we can get those, too, fixed.
Please let me know if you have any further questions, suggestions or other feedback and I'll do my best to help you out! --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 17:43, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
The problem he had with AbuseFilter is that he tried to create a Forum post without using the links on an Index page, got the warning,
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Add new forum topics only from a forum index page.

Forum index pages are listed on Forum:Index.

and then ignored the warning, and tried the same thing again, which (of course) blocked him again. --Saftzie (talk) 20:37, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
@Jack Phoenix: The problem is that the wizard to create wikis has been like this for months, which gives the impression that it is abandoned. The only "mistakes" I meant was the difficulty in editing this page. Also, the recent version of MediaWiki is 1.37, we are now moving, as you said, to 1.35. The abuse filter was triggered when I tried to open a topic in the forum. I believe it is possible to set up a wiki farm without ads, see Miraheze, still in its recent version. It doesn't need ads, it's the recent version (1.37), and it has a larger community (it's over 300,000 users the other day), and it has CentralAuth to make it easier for a user to visit the wikis, and they also don't need to put a link to terms of use in the sidebar, the only negativity is the dormancy policy. Even so, shoutwiki is still better than fandom. Do you plan to fix this wizard to create wikis when? YellowFrogger (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
@Saftzie: Thanks for looking into this and with your general AF work here on Hub, it's much appreciated!
@YellowFrogger: Indeed, the situation with the Wiki Creation Wizard was quite literally something we never had seen before; and given that ShoutWiki's been around for quite some time now, we've seen all sorts of glitches, bugs and oddities. An unusual emergency required a swift response, which we took to secure data integrity. I know it doesn't feel like that, but it was the lesser of two evils. Admittedly the fix should've been deployed sooner rather than later, but MediaWiki 1.35 happened.
It certainly is possible to set up a wiki farm without ads, no question about it. Is it sustainable? Time will tell. That said, we've been around longer (see, for example, ShoutWiki Hub:About) and a lot of technical innovations used by Miraheze, the Wikimedia Foundation, and many other MediaWiki-based sites on the Internet originate from us: Category:Extensions by ShoutWiki on MediaWiki.org lists some of these. Our commitment to open source has enabled others to reuse and improve the tools we've originally built for our users.
CentralAuth originated as a Wikimedia-specific ugly hack to work around the technical limitation that e.g. different language Wikipedias could have the same user name in use by two different people. This was never a thing if you used the appropriate configuration variables ($wgSharedDB, $wgSharedTables) properly, which we did. Thus I'm not sure how its existence is a positive thing? As far as I'm aware, CentralAuth alone doesn't provide much that wouldn't be provided by other extensions (e.g. global user blocking on ShoutWiki is implemented by RegexBlock and it somewhat mimics the "locking" of user accounts implemented in CentralAuth, etc.).
Numbers can be misleading, it depends on many things. Users will choose whatever site they prefer, and each and every user prioritizes various things differently. I'd love to hear your suggestions on user engagement, as it's vital for us to hear from our users!
The Wiki Creation Wizard bug fix will be rolled out together with all the other bug fixes included in the big 1.35 upgrade. Currently ShoutWiki has 12830 wikis, so doing all the necessary database upgrades for all those is going to take a while, and we want to minimize downtime to the extent that it is possible. Thus I unfortunately don't have a precise ETA to give you, yet; but stay tuned! We'll let you know via our official social media channels as well as on-wiki global notices when there's a set date for the upgrade rollout. --Jack PhoenixShoutWiki Staff (Contact) 23:34, 2 March 2022 (UTC)