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<div>{{Delete}}</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_7&diff=5681User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 72011-05-10T05:27:28Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Wikisimpsons ==<br />
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Seems like ShoutWiki is gonna lose Wikisimpsons. The vote is 7 to 3 for moving to independence. You screwed up big time. If there was another Wikifarm better than this, I would make a Bee line straight toward it after Autopedia (If ever) recovers. GET ON WITH IT. Your testing my patience!!!! --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 08:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I understand your frustration Silver, but making petty demands like this serves absolutely no use other than to annoy staff, especially when you're demanding instant action from someone who currently provides '''free''' hosting. I can assure you that ShoutWiki's support team is working around the clock to restore everything back to normal, and comments such as these only cause unnecessary distractions to the people that have dedicated their free time to this restoration. If you're so intent on requiring faster service, then you would probably be better off elsewhere. But that leads to your duly noted comment, "If there was another Wikifarm better than this...." There isn't. Plain and simple. ShoutWiki not only offers the best wiki-hosting, but the fastest technical support team as well. Beyond that, there's absolutely nothing any of us can do except wait it out. [[User:Supergeeky1|Supergeeky1]] ([[User talk:Supergeeky1|talk]]) 13:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The only farm better than this is Wikia - The only exception they have is the atrocious Wikia skin. The rest is way ''better'' than this. I can't stand it. ShoutWiki sucks. No joke!! IT JUST FRIGGIN SUCKS!!! --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Again, yelling doesn't get you anywhere. If you're seriously of the opinion that Wikia offers better support than ShoutWiki, which I find that rather hard to believe to be completely honest, then you're free to fill out Wikia's Special:Contact form, wait two or more months for a reply and pray to whatever deity you worship that they re-import your content. Obviously both Wikisimpsons and Autopedia would be missed, but it wouldn't be the end of ShoutWiki. That said, it would probably be a good idea to give Jack a break from all of these "SHOUTWIKI SUCKS!!11oneone!" messages and instead drop your feeling of superiority and direct your (preferably constructive) criticism [[Special:WikiForum/Autopedia_and_Simpsons_Fanon|elsewhere]] instead of clogging things up on Jack's end with unnecessary temper tantrums. [[User:Supergeeky1|Supergeeky1]] ([[User talk:Supergeeky1|talk]]) 13:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:"Pray to whatever deity you worship" "unnecessary temper tantrums" So you want a fight huh? Trying to write me off. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 14:39, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Alright, I'll cool down. I'll stick with ShoutWiki even if it takes 80 days..... Is that good enough for you? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 14:52, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Could you make it eighty-three-fiddy days? We'd really appreciate it. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 15:00, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::@Madclaw. I'm trying to stay cool and not explode. What do I get? An put down insult from you. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 15:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::[[User:Jedimca0|Do or do not, there is no try]] '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 15:42, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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What's that supposed to mean? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 15:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:@Hockeyebn, Dude if you don't know I aint gonna tell you. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 16:07, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Dude, I never watched star wars. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 16:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Looked it up, I know what it means now. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 16:23, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Let's stay calm, everyone. We're working on restoring Autopedia and Simpsons Fanon, but it's something our [[technical staff]] is working on. If I could restore the wikis just by pressing a button, I'd have pressed it a long time ago. But alas, it's nowhere near that simple. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix#top|talk]]) 16:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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What I'm really curios to know is why there were issues restoring Autopedia in the first place. I's there an older backup it can be restorerd from? What makes it and simpsons fanon different than the 698 wikis that were restored fine? [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]])<<br />
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Yes, it looks like Wikisimpsons is moving away from ShoutWiki. This is unfortunate as I like ShoutWiki a lot. However, I have to think about the wiki and I think moving away might help us. However, I would not appreciate you shouting at staff like this. That is not the reason ShoutWiki is called ShoutWiki. Also, please don't bring Wikisimpsons into your little argument with ShoutWiki staff. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 19:30, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Silver's just incredibly annoyed. My question arises is Is there a February 28th backup that AP can be restored from. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:32, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Okay, so its bad news..... If Autopedia recovers... I am out of here. All the effort we put into has turned to sand. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 00:25, 10 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Any ideas on how I can create a new wiki at Curse.com? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 00:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)\<br />
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:::First of all why did Autopedia not make it? I need to know what caused it to be down. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 03:01, 10 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Semantic MediaWiki with Statistics-counted Namespaces ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>It seems I have a small issue on both Stargate Wiki (EN and FR) regarding semantic data. I use semantic on [[s:w:stargate:Template:Infobox Episode|the Infobox Episode]] template. When we are on the mainspace, it works (for an example: [[s:w:stargate:Children of the Gods|"Children of the Gods"]]). When I use the Episode namespace, no semantic data appears (for an example: [[s:w:stargate:Episode:Blockade|"Blockade"]]). Is it the fact that we need to enable semantic on all statistics-counted namespaces on both wikis? Thanks for your answer. Best Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 16:05, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I didn't do that on purpose, Jack msg'd me about it on IRC but I have no idea as to what caused it, my appologies and may your firstborn be a masculant one. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 16:19, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: No problem, Madclaw. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 16:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Hi LIMAFOX76, now that's quite odd. I believe it should work correctly; I've set $smwgShowFactbox = SMW_FACTBOX_NONEMPTY; for both wikis, which should make the factbox visible if the factboxes have some content (according to the [http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration#Interface_settings Semantic MediaWiki manual]).<br />
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:::Like I've said before, I'm no Semantic MediaWiki guru though, so maybe SMW developers could be of more use in this situation. If I recall correctly, they have a mailing list for SMW users &mdash; and the developers are generally very helpful.<br />
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:::In any case, I've requested our tech team to update the version of SMW that we use in [[bz:169|bug #169]] (comment #3). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix#top|talk]]) 16:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::: Jack, I found that on the configuration manuel:<br/><br />
<pre>$smwgNamespacesWithSemanticLinks = array(<br />
NS_MAIN => true,<br />
NS_TALK => false,<br />
NS_USER => true,<br />
NS_USER_TALK => false,<br />
NS_PROJECT => true,<br />
NS_PROJECT_TALK => false,<br />
NS_IMAGE => true,<br />
NS_IMAGE_TALK => false,<br />
NS_MEDIAWIKI => false,<br />
NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK => false,<br />
NS_TEMPLATE => false,<br />
NS_TEMPLATE_TALK => false,<br />
NS_HELP => true,<br />
NS_HELP_TALK => false,<br />
NS_CATEGORY => true,<br />
NS_CATEGORY_TALK => false,<br />
SMW_NS_PROPERTY => true,<br />
SMW_NS_PROPERTY_TALK => false,<br />
SMW_NS_TYPE => true,<br />
SMW_NS_TYPE_TALK => false,<br />
SMW_NS_CONCEPT => true,<br />
SMW_NS_CONCEPT_TALK => false,<br />
);</pre><br/>Does it help? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 16:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I clearly didn't look hard enough! I've added both wiki's custom namespaces into the $smwgNamespacesWithSemanticLinks array; do the factboxes show up on those namespaces now? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix#top|talk]]) 17:00, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:: As I said on IRC, it's working great. Thanks a lot. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 17:19, 9 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion thread ==<br />
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I accidentally deleted the Autopedia and Simpsons Fanon thread, I don't like the feature. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikicars software ==<br />
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I contacted misza, is there a way to ensure a quick response from him? What I contacted him about Is incredibly important.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 03:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Final goodbye ==<br />
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You screwed up and lost data. You spent TOO much time fixing it and equally as worse you neglected to tell us EVERY step to assure us of your progress. You went against your word to delete wikis stating that others MAY one day use them (just like Wikia), certain users refuse to accept your failure (not moving, just accepting that it was partly your fault) and are thus becoming EXACTLY like the users we left Wikia because of, instead of whooping Wikia ass, Shoutwiki is becoming more and more like them. <br />
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Shoutwiki is like excessive alcohol, things get better and better as you drink until you go to sleep, then you wake up and everything has gone to shit. Ban me, desysop me, do whatever you like, just know that you failed and it will cost you in the long run. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_6&diff=5612User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 62011-05-08T14:34:47Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Delete ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[s:w:oreo|Oreo Wiki]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 08:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Log-in/out error ==<br />
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I seem to be periodically logging in and logging out during page changes. [[Special:Contributions/150.203.222.179|150.203.222.179]] 12:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
There see it happened again. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]<br />
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:Do you have the "remember me" option enabled? If not, that could be a reason why you're being logged out...if the problem persists, please report it on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. Be sure to include details about your browser and operating system in the report, too (you can get some useful info about your computer by visiting [[Special:MyInfo]]). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How do ==<br />
How do I invite users to a private wiki?--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]])<br />
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:Use the '''Special:Invite''' [[Help:Special pages|special page]]. A log of invitations (and the removal of invitations) is kept at '''Special:Log/invite'''. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[http://zh.potocoso.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:Invite see],I do ,but i look not .--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]]) 04:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It was missing from your wiki for some odd reason. I've added it so it should work now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
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I have made a gallery for [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off my wiki]. How do I get a fifth picture to appear on the first row? That way, it can cover the whole line of the main page columns. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 16:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding <code>perrow=5</code> to the gallery tag should work, ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I tried this, and I wasn't able to get it to work. Would you (or Jack) mind going over there, and trying to get it to work? The 5 images are in the gallery on the Main page. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 21:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Worked for me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:42, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Center ==<br />
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How do I get the News Feed on [[s:w:icehockey]] to appear in the middle of the page? I've tried some methods that have worked for other parts of the page, but not for the RSS News Feed. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 20:33, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Is that what you wanted? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Perfect. Thanks. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I think there is a big issue with the BASEPAGENAME and The SUBPAGENAME magic words in ShoutWiki in general. For an example, you see [http://eureka.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Str_left/doc this page] as normaly his BASEPAGENAME equals to "'''Str left'''" but not here. It equals "'''Str left/doc'''". That makes a big issue for transcluded pages and with templates which has to find the BASEPAGENAME. That was a problem I noticed month ago with [[s:w:fr.stargate|Stargate Wiki]]. Do you have an answer for this?<br/>Thanks. Regards. --[[Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 26 février 2011 à 10:30 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied on [[s:w:fr:Discussion utilisateur:Jack Phoenix#SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue.]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I think you are not permit a template page to have a SUBPAGE. In other page ,such as [[User_talk:Summerking/SUBPAGE]], <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki> work well. And it will diaplay a tagline "'''< User talk:Summerking'''" to let visitor go back to the 'parent' page. But in template page, it's not. Just like what [[s:w:fr:Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] say. So I have to use '''<nowiki>{{#titleparts: {{BASEPAGENAME}} | 1}}</nowiki>'''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 21:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Good catch, Summerking! I've enabled subpages in the template namespace (added NS_TEMPLATE => true to [[mw:Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages|$wgNamespacesWithSubpages]]; now the only namespaces where subpages are '''not''' enabled are File, MediaWiki and Category), so maybe it works now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::I consider '''main namespace''' should '''NOT''' have sub-pages, or the article like ''<nowiki>[[GNU/Linux_naming_controversy]]</nowiki>'' will be treated as the sub-page of ''<nowiki>[[GNU]]</nowiki>''. See also [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages|Wikipedia:Subpages]], and it suggest a temp pages([[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:workpages|workpages]]) should be the sub-page of talk namespace, e.g. ''<nowiki>[[Talk:Example Article/Temp]]</nowiki>''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 11:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I consider page names like ''GNU/Linux naming controversy'' as [[wikipedia:Edge case|edge cases]]; it's possible that such problems occur, but relatively rare. If I were to turn off subpages in the main namespace, I'd assume that soon either my talk page or Bugzilla or both would be filled with requests to re-enable subpages in the main namespace. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hi Jack,<br/>is it possible to enable sub-pages on my different wikies in the added NAMESPACES (Episode, etc.). Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Hi Jack,<br/>I think you will have to do once again the activation of all my wikis added NAMESPACES subpages due to server crashdown. Sorry. Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Subpages should be enabled for the custom namespaces which count towards the article count (see [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces|MediaWiki.org]] for the technical details) in [[s:w:fr.24]], [[s:w:fr.stargate]], [[s:w:eureka]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka]]. Let me know if I've missed a namespace and I'll fix it! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Autopedia? ==<br />
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Where the fuck is Autopedia? Everyone's out there smiling and happy editing, except for Autopedia. We've lost over 5 weeks of car updates. Autopedia is one ShoutWiki's biggest and important wiki. I hope Autopedia is back up because I am just about to explode. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*The techs are looking into those issues, I will ask for an update. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 21:39, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
**Also, using the word ''fuck'' will not make things any faster, I know this from experience since I have used that word towards Wikia a many times and it never made anything faster or better. Just saying. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 21:41, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Silver's just frustrated with the situation, I am too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I can understand your frustration, and believe me, I was frustrated, too! The downtime was a lot longer than we even dared to imagine, but it's better to be safe than sorry.<br />
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:As for Autopedia, [[User:Misza|Misza]] is the tech working on that &mdash; please ask him for the current status of the project. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:::Oh Misza? How about he doesn't respond to any question. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:22, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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He hasnt responded in the past. Give him a day or two. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:53, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Premium skins ==<br />
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I really like the nimbus skin. When will it and the other premium skins become available? Thx [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:24, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Oops, almost forgot. What is the extension you wrote that was only available in 1.16? I'm really curious about it! [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:25, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:We hope that we'll be able to finalize the details on premium features during this summer.<br />
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:As for that extension I wrote, it'll need a bit of reviewing and given that it passes the review, it'll be installed here for testing and assuming that no outstanding issues will be found, it'll be then available for other wikis, too. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Where can I view these skins? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:19, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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[[s:w:premium]] look in your preferences there.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:32, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem in regards to creating a wiki. ==<br />
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Every time I try to create a wiki, it presents me with an error message, I go back and try to change things, but it still presents me with the same message. Although that is not entirely true, there have been two different messages I have encountered. It says that it's a syntax error? I can't understand the problem, and would greatly appreciate it if you would help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi Legion, you're not doing anything wrong. There's a bug in our wiki creation tool and [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] from our [[Technical staff|tech team]] is fixing it as we speak. Once he's done fixing, the tool should work properly again. You may want to stop by [[Help:IRC|our IRC channel, #ShoutWiki on irc.shoutwiki.com]] &mdash; many staff members, Skizzerz and myself included, are there. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Alright I will, thanks. --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 01:35, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem with a wiki creation ==<br />
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Hi, I dont know where to turn, so I write here. I am founder of Historica Wiki, then I tried to create Empire beyond the Stars Wiki, but I failed. My first attempt failed with some (I dont remember which) error message, then I tried three more times with this error message:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br/>CREATE DATABASE ebts_wiki<br/>from within function "". Database returned error "1007: Can't create database 'ebts_wiki'; database exists (localhost)".<br />
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So I assumed, that first creation failed, but shoutwiki still thinks, that it is created (when I tried to use url www.ebts.shoutwiki.com, it results in No such wiki page) and it wont allow to recreate it. Now, if I try create new wiki, it just says that ''You have already created 5 wikis. You cannot create any more.'', which isnt clearly true, because I created one functional and one functionless and made another three attempts to recreated it. What now? --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:28, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Eh, I just read post above... Sorry for my post. --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:34, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Yep, it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. I'll poke you when it's been fixed! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Can you message me too Jack, cheers.--[[User:Cook879|Cook879]] ([[User talk:Cook879|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Close ==<br />
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Hi. Please close: [[s:w:nba|NBA Wiki]], [[s:w:collegebasketball|Colelge Basketball]], [[s:w:nfl|NFL Wiki]], and [[s:w:collegefootball|College football wiki]]. Please note, I am not upset with shoutwiki or anything. These sites are dupliactes of two other sites I made, thus they are not needed. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:48, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
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I would be interested in adopting [http://football.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page football wiki]. What are the requirements for adopting? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:36, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:There are no formal requirements for adoption. I'd suggest contacting the founder of the wiki [[s:w:football:User talk:Josegiraffio|on their talk page]], and if they don't reply within a week, I can give you admin/bureaucrat/steward rights to the wiki &mdash; you're a trusted user, I see no reason why you couldn't adopt the wiki. I'm sure you'll be able to make the wiki awesome! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Delete==<br />
Delete: Stargate Wiiki, Archaeology Wiki, Smallville Wiki, Dark Angel Wiki, Veronica Mars Wiki and Arrested Development Wiki. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:04, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Also delete Stargate Fanon Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:16, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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And finally: Escyos Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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As per letting LIMAFOX76 take the stargate domain, to that i say NO. Read [http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJack_Phoenix&diff=2979&oldid=2974 | your comment] and if need be i can get the other active users who used that site to vote to take it down. If LIMAFOX76 wants it he can re-create it afterwards. Dont become like Wikia and refuse to do so, look what happened when they did that. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It's for the communitys behalf. And limafox is part of the community. Just saying.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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10 NON-mainspace edits, 5 of which were last year doesnt really make him a great part of the community. I put in hours as did others. He has a stargate wiki and his english is terrible so why would he want an english one. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: Is my English so terrible? I'm sorry. I will try to improve it. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 14:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Ok after a few drinks, I've decided that the wikis should be left here so that wikia can die a slow painful death. LETS KILL WIKIA! WOOOOOO! [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 09:10, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Wow. You must REALLY hate wikia.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 14:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Please take a look at [[Terms of use#Changes to wikis|our terms of use]], which you have accepted by using the site and creating wikis on ShoutWiki.<br />
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:Archaelogy is a subject that many people study in universities across the globe; Arrested Development, Dark Angel, Smallville, Stargate and Veronica Mars are popular TV shows that are shown across the globe, even in places like Finland! As a matter of fact, I've watched most of those shows and I've liked most of them, too. It'd be quite selfish to think that you're the only person who is allowed to like these series and/or make a wiki about them. The situation might be a bit different if the wikis in question would be in a language other than English, but alas, they're not; English is one of the most spoken languages in the world.<br />
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:As for LIMAFOX76, he's a helpful user and the founder of the French Stargate wiki. Sure, he's not a native speaker of English, but then again, neither am I. If you're saying that his English is terrible, I guess that you've been dealing with only native speakers of English, then. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::''...that are shown across the globe, even in places like Finland!'' Wow, you must really be a patriot! And one small advice, don't want to learn Czech (you have written it on you user page), it's terrible (hard) and complicated language. Best wishes --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 15:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::No, it's easy and funny. :P Greetings from Poland! [[User:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[User talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 05:10, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes, if you are Pole or Slovak, but Finn? Greetings from Czechia! --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 06:38, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Can't say that Greek, Japanese or Polish would be that easy, either &mdash; but I like challenges! ;-) And some people that I know say that [[wikipedia:Finnish language|Finnish]] is terribly difficult...I guess they do have a point after all, heh. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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So what your saying is that you won't delete the wikis i have asked or rather those where I was the only editor because someone MIGHT one day use them? Chances are if someone took them over they would change all the content, mediawiki pages, skins etc so it would be like creating another wiki. All this shows is that your promises appear to have no standing whatsoever (e.g. [http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJack_Phoenix&diff=2979&oldid=2974]). [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 10:39, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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You said this '''After a few drinks, I've decided the wikis should be left here. LETS kill wikia WOO!'' so you basically said you want them left here.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 12:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Escyos, you accepted the [[terms of use]] when you created an account. If you didn't bother reading through the ToU page, that is not my problem. So please don't blame me for that.<br />
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:As for the wikis you created...I'd say that the emphasis is on the '''wikis''' rather than on '''you'''. You've moved on and that's okay. Why should it have any effect on the Dark Angel, Stargate or Veronica Mars fans on ShoutWiki? Other people '''are''' allowed to like those TV series and they also can build a wiki about them.<br />
Most of the wikis you started are licensed under the CC-BY-SA license, just like Wikipedia and countless other wiki sites, which means that while you own the copyright to the original content you've written, you allow the site to use it under the terms of the CC-BY-SA license.<br />
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:You pretty much claim that I'm a liar, which is surprising, considering the facts &mdash; we've closed plenty of wikis at the request of their creators and/or communities and we will continue doing that if it's what the situation requires. You've moved on, which is why I find it rather surprising that you care about what wikis people over here edit. Even if I would've agreed to your demands, what would you have done when someone would've created a new Stargate wiki (for example) at stargate.shoutwiki.com? Would you have demanded that it should be deleted immediately because you once had a wiki under that URL?<br />
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:To quote [[mw:User:Bawolff|a fellow MediaWiki developer]], "creating a wiki is like creating a baby, yes you should have a good reason to create one, but if you don't for whatever reason, you should have an _extra_ good reason for killing one". --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix#top|talk]]) 14:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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''we've closed plenty of wikis at the request of their creators and/or communities'', what about those wikis i created that i was the only editor? (which was quite a few) why aren't they removed, i've seen plenty of wikis removed because the creator requested it and the creator stayed. I think this is merely because I left/am leaving, that you are treating me this way. Way to become another Wikia clone! You had potential but you simply refuse to accept the change and now you are wikia. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 14:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== change name ==<br />
*hi,my wiki crayonshinchan.shoutwiki.com 蠟筆小新,change name 維基電影,URL:movie.shoutwiki.com--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*Thanks.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*language:zh-tw-中文(台灣).--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:21, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I've opened a ticket about this on our Bugzilla &mdash; see [[bz:172]]. This seems to be a complicated operation, which is why it's best for a member of the [[technical staff]] to handle this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
*ok.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 06:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== 5 wikis ==<br />
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I'm getting a message that I've already created 5 wikis. I have only created 3, though.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Like a few posts above - it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 04:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about the problem with creating wikis ==<br />
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I know this topic has already been discussed and that it is working on being fixed. I was just curious that, when the problem is fixed, if those wikis, that were supposedly created will be removed as well.<br />
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[[User:Morbidangelx07|Morbidangelx07]] ([[User talk:Morbidangelx07|talk]]) 07:33, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] is the main tech working on CreateWiki-related things, please contact him. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Updates for [[s:w:stargate|Stargate Wiki]] ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/> I don't if the contact email worked, but is it possible please to add some stuff for Stargate Wiki?<br />
* Namespaces:<br />
** '''Episode''' (to be counted on statistics)<br />
** '''Mythology''' (to be counted on statistics)<br />
** '''Spoiler''' (to be counted on statistics)<br />
** '''Interview''' (to be counted on statistics)<br />
** '''Portal''' (to be excluded from statistics)<br />
** '''Project''' (to be excluded from statistics)<br />
* Install the Semantic MediaWiki extension<br />
* Enable subpages.<br />
Thank you very much. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 08:25, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Hi LIMAFOX76, I've added these new namespaces (numbers range from 160 to 171), enabled subpages for the namespaces which are counted as content (Episode, Mythology, Spoiler and Interview) and enabled Semantic MediaWiki. Let me know if I forgot something or you need any further help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Did you enable subpages for mainspace and template namespaces? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 16:48, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Subpages are enabled for the following namespaces globally (=in all ShoutWiki wikis): main, Talk, User, User talk, Project, Project talk, File talk, MediaWiki talk, Template, Template talk, Help, Help talk and Category talk. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 16:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::: Thank you very much Jack. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 16:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Hi, can I ask for some updates on my [http://cs.historica.shoutwiki.com Historica Wiki]? If it is possible, I would like to have '''Dokument''' namespace added (not countable if possible). --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 17:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. Dokument namespace has the internal ID number of 130 and Dokument_diskuse has the ID of 131 and pages in the Dokument NS are not counted towards content count on [[Special:Statistics]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks a lot --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 18:10, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sysop powers on awa ==<br />
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Hi jack. I had been granted sysop powers on [[s:w:awa|AWA]] before the crash, and they were lost. I contacted the admin to ask him to re-grant them four days ago, and I recieved no response. Could you grant me sysop powers there? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:27, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks. [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:12, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== WikiForum ==<br />
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Wow! really cool feature. Is that the extension you were talking about? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes! Finally a proper discussion forum for MediaWikis! It has a few rough edges, but I'm still gonna say that it's a lot better than most of the pre-existing forum solutions for MediaWiki (such as [[mw:Extension:DPLforum|the DPLforum extension]], various bridges with "real" forums, i.e. phpBB, Invision Power Board, vBulletin, etc.). And I won't be pinged every time someone posts something on WikiForum! ;-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix#top|talk]]) 17:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I would love to have this feature enabled for [[s:w:icehockey]], but I can't find the [[Special:WikiForum]] page. Does this need to be activated upon request? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:37, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Right now the feature is undergoing final testing, here on Hub, after that it will be available on request. We have tested it privately on a separate wiki, as well as publicly on Jedipedia. Right now we want to do some final testing here on hub, where it will be more actively used to make sure there are no remaining bugs. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 17:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion request ==<br />
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Could you delete the wiki I linked you to on IRC? [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 00:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:''Et voilà !'' It's been done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix#top|talk]]) 00:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Autopedia update ==<br />
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Do you know how misza is progressing With the recovery of autopedia? He hasn't responded to the question on his talk. Sorry if I sound impatient, I'm just quite concerned with the situation.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 04:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:We've waited way too long. You've acerbated me. I am furious with you all right now. If this goes on to 60 days +, I will blow up whether you like it or not. We've currently lost the 2012 Volkswagen New Beelte, Jaguar C-X75, Porsche Panamera Diesel, and more. But who friggin cares right? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 08:54, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::@Silver Knight, I've been getting updates frequently via IRC. The only problem is, there is nothing to update. They have tried a few things to no avail. i know you're angry, but you can't do anything. If you "blow up", all that'll happen is that you get a block for a few days. <br />
::@Hockeyben, Misza rarely replies to talk page comments. Don't take it personally. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:10, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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This is exactly the problem here. Communication is not great, unless your on irc. I tried, but my login won't work. Solar dragon, could you keep me and silver knight updated on the forum I made here on the hub regarding AP? [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 12:53, 8 May 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_6&diff=5606User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 62011-05-08T10:39:33Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Delete ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[s:w:oreo|Oreo Wiki]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 08:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Log-in/out error ==<br />
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I seem to be periodically logging in and logging out during page changes. [[Special:Contributions/150.203.222.179|150.203.222.179]] 12:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
There see it happened again. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]<br />
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:Do you have the "remember me" option enabled? If not, that could be a reason why you're being logged out...if the problem persists, please report it on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. Be sure to include details about your browser and operating system in the report, too (you can get some useful info about your computer by visiting [[Special:MyInfo]]). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How do ==<br />
How do I invite users to a private wiki?--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]])<br />
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:Use the '''Special:Invite''' [[Help:Special pages|special page]]. A log of invitations (and the removal of invitations) is kept at '''Special:Log/invite'''. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[http://zh.potocoso.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:Invite see],I do ,but i look not .--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]]) 04:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It was missing from your wiki for some odd reason. I've added it so it should work now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
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I have made a gallery for [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off my wiki]. How do I get a fifth picture to appear on the first row? That way, it can cover the whole line of the main page columns. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 16:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding <code>perrow=5</code> to the gallery tag should work, ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I tried this, and I wasn't able to get it to work. Would you (or Jack) mind going over there, and trying to get it to work? The 5 images are in the gallery on the Main page. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 21:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Worked for me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:42, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Center ==<br />
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How do I get the News Feed on [[s:w:icehockey]] to appear in the middle of the page? I've tried some methods that have worked for other parts of the page, but not for the RSS News Feed. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 20:33, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Is that what you wanted? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Perfect. Thanks. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I think there is a big issue with the BASEPAGENAME and The SUBPAGENAME magic words in ShoutWiki in general. For an example, you see [http://eureka.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Str_left/doc this page] as normaly his BASEPAGENAME equals to "'''Str left'''" but not here. It equals "'''Str left/doc'''". That makes a big issue for transcluded pages and with templates which has to find the BASEPAGENAME. That was a problem I noticed month ago with [[s:w:fr.stargate|Stargate Wiki]]. Do you have an answer for this?<br/>Thanks. Regards. --[[Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 26 février 2011 à 10:30 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied on [[s:w:fr:Discussion utilisateur:Jack Phoenix#SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue.]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I think you are not permit a template page to have a SUBPAGE. In other page ,such as [[User_talk:Summerking/SUBPAGE]], <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki> work well. And it will diaplay a tagline "'''< User talk:Summerking'''" to let visitor go back to the 'parent' page. But in template page, it's not. Just like what [[s:w:fr:Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] say. So I have to use '''<nowiki>{{#titleparts: {{BASEPAGENAME}} | 1}}</nowiki>'''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 21:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Good catch, Summerking! I've enabled subpages in the template namespace (added NS_TEMPLATE => true to [[mw:Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages|$wgNamespacesWithSubpages]]; now the only namespaces where subpages are '''not''' enabled are File, MediaWiki and Category), so maybe it works now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::I consider '''main namespace''' should '''NOT''' have sub-pages, or the article like ''<nowiki>[[GNU/Linux_naming_controversy]]</nowiki>'' will be treated as the sub-page of ''<nowiki>[[GNU]]</nowiki>''. See also [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages|Wikipedia:Subpages]], and it suggest a temp pages([[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:workpages|workpages]]) should be the sub-page of talk namespace, e.g. ''<nowiki>[[Talk:Example Article/Temp]]</nowiki>''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 11:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I consider page names like ''GNU/Linux naming controversy'' as [[wikipedia:Edge case|edge cases]]; it's possible that such problems occur, but relatively rare. If I were to turn off subpages in the main namespace, I'd assume that soon either my talk page or Bugzilla or both would be filled with requests to re-enable subpages in the main namespace. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hi Jack,<br/>is it possible to enable sub-pages on my different wikies in the added NAMESPACES (Episode, etc.). Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Hi Jack,<br/>I think you will have to do once again the activation of all my wikis added NAMESPACES subpages due to server crashdown. Sorry. Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Subpages should be enabled for the custom namespaces which count towards the article count (see [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces|MediaWiki.org]] for the technical details) in [[s:w:fr.24]], [[s:w:fr.stargate]], [[s:w:eureka]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka]]. Let me know if I've missed a namespace and I'll fix it! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Autopedia? ==<br />
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Where the fuck is Autopedia? Everyone's out there smiling and happy editing, except for Autopedia. We've lost over 5 weeks of car updates. Autopedia is one ShoutWiki's biggest and important wiki. I hope Autopedia is back up because I am just about to explode. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*The techs are looking into those issues, I will ask for an update. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 21:39, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
**Also, using the word ''fuck'' will not make things any faster, I know this from experience since I have used that word towards Wikia a many times and it never made anything faster or better. Just saying. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 21:41, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Silver's just frustrated with the situation, I am too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I can understand your frustration, and believe me, I was frustrated, too! The downtime was a lot longer than we even dared to imagine, but it's better to be safe than sorry.<br />
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:As for Autopedia, [[User:Misza|Misza]] is the tech working on that &mdash; please ask him for the current status of the project. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:::Oh Misza? How about he doesn't respond to any question. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:22, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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He hasnt responded in the past. Give him a day or two. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:53, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Premium skins ==<br />
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I really like the nimbus skin. When will it and the other premium skins become available? Thx [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:24, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Oops, almost forgot. What is the extension you wrote that was only available in 1.16? I'm really curious about it! [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:25, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:We hope that we'll be able to finalize the details on premium features during this summer.<br />
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:As for that extension I wrote, it'll need a bit of reviewing and given that it passes the review, it'll be installed here for testing and assuming that no outstanding issues will be found, it'll be then available for other wikis, too. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Where can I view these skins? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:19, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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[[s:w:premium]] look in your preferences there.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:32, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem in regards to creating a wiki. ==<br />
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Every time I try to create a wiki, it presents me with an error message, I go back and try to change things, but it still presents me with the same message. Although that is not entirely true, there have been two different messages I have encountered. It says that it's a syntax error? I can't understand the problem, and would greatly appreciate it if you would help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi Legion, you're not doing anything wrong. There's a bug in our wiki creation tool and [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] from our [[Technical staff|tech team]] is fixing it as we speak. Once he's done fixing, the tool should work properly again. You may want to stop by [[Help:IRC|our IRC channel, #ShoutWiki on irc.shoutwiki.com]] &mdash; many staff members, Skizzerz and myself included, are there. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Alright I will, thanks. --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 01:35, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem with a wiki creation ==<br />
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Hi, I dont know where to turn, so I write here. I am founder of Historica Wiki, then I tried to create Empire beyond the Stars Wiki, but I failed. My first attempt failed with some (I dont remember which) error message, then I tried three more times with this error message:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br/>CREATE DATABASE ebts_wiki<br/>from within function "". Database returned error "1007: Can't create database 'ebts_wiki'; database exists (localhost)".<br />
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So I assumed, that first creation failed, but shoutwiki still thinks, that it is created (when I tried to use url www.ebts.shoutwiki.com, it results in No such wiki page) and it wont allow to recreate it. Now, if I try create new wiki, it just says that ''You have already created 5 wikis. You cannot create any more.'', which isnt clearly true, because I created one functional and one functionless and made another three attempts to recreated it. What now? --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:28, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Eh, I just read post above... Sorry for my post. --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:34, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Yep, it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. I'll poke you when it's been fixed! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Can you message me too Jack, cheers.--[[User:Cook879|Cook879]] ([[User talk:Cook879|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Close ==<br />
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Hi. Please close: [[s:w:nba|NBA Wiki]], [[s:w:collegebasketball|Colelge Basketball]], [[s:w:nfl|NFL Wiki]], and [[s:w:collegefootball|College football wiki]]. Please note, I am not upset with shoutwiki or anything. These sites are dupliactes of two other sites I made, thus they are not needed. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:48, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
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I would be interested in adopting [http://football.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page football wiki]. What are the requirements for adopting? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:36, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:There are no formal requirements for adoption. I'd suggest contacting the founder of the wiki [[s:w:football:User talk:Josegiraffio|on their talk page]], and if they don't reply within a week, I can give you admin/bureaucrat/steward rights to the wiki &mdash; you're a trusted user, I see no reason why you couldn't adopt the wiki. I'm sure you'll be able to make the wiki awesome! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Delete==<br />
Delete: Stargate Wiiki, Archaeology Wiki, Smallville Wiki, Dark Angel Wiki, Veronica Mars Wiki and Arrested Development Wiki. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:04, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Also delete Stargate Fanon Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:16, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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And finally: Escyos Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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As per letting LIMAFOX76 take the stargate domain, to that i say NO. Read [http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJack_Phoenix&diff=2979&oldid=2974 | your comment] and if need be i can get the other active users who used that site to vote to take it down. If LIMAFOX76 wants it he can re-create it afterwards. Dont become like Wikia and refuse to do so, look what happened when they did that. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It's for the communitys behalf. And limafox is part of the community. Just saying.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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10 NON-mainspace edits, 5 of which were last year doesnt really make him a great part of the community. I put in hours as did others. He has a stargate wiki and his english is terrible so why would he want an english one. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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: Is my English so terrible? I'm sorry. I will try to improve it. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 14:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Ok after a few drinks, I've decided that the wikis should be left here so that wikia can die a slow painful death. LETS KILL WIKIA! WOOOOOO! [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 09:10, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Wow. You must REALLY hate wikia.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 14:21, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Please take a look at [[Terms of use#Changes to wikis|our terms of use]], which you have accepted by using the site and creating wikis on ShoutWiki.<br />
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:Archaelogy is a subject that many people study in universities across the globe; Arrested Development, Dark Angel, Smallville, Stargate and Veronica Mars are popular TV shows that are shown across the globe, even in places like Finland! As a matter of fact, I've watched most of those shows and I've liked most of them, too. It'd be quite selfish to think that you're the only person who is allowed to like these series and/or make a wiki about them. The situation might be a bit different if the wikis in question would be in a language other than English, but alas, they're not; English is one of the most spoken languages in the world.<br />
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:As for LIMAFOX76, he's a helpful user and the founder of the French Stargate wiki. Sure, he's not a native speaker of English, but then again, neither am I. If you're saying that his English is terrible, I guess that you've been dealing with only native speakers of English, then. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::''...that are shown across the globe, even in places like Finland!'' Wow, you must really be a patriot! And one small advice, don't want to learn Czech (you have written it on you user page), it's terrible (hard) and complicated language. Best wishes --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 15:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::No, it's easy and funny. :P Greetings from Poland! [[User:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[User talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 05:10, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::Yes, if you are Pole or Slovak, but Finn? Greetings from Czechia! --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 06:38, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::::Can't say that Greek, Japanese or Polish would be that easy, either &mdash; but I like challenges! ;-) And some people that I know say that [[wikipedia:Finnish language|Finnish]] is terribly difficult...I guess they do have a point after all, heh. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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So what your saying is that you won't delete the wikis i have asked or rather those where I was the only editor because someone MIGHT one day use them? Chances are if someone took them over they would change all the content, mediawiki pages, skins etc so it would be like creating another wiki. All this shows is that your promises appear to have no standing whatsoever (e.g. [http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJack_Phoenix&diff=2979&oldid=2974]). [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 10:39, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== change name ==<br />
*hi,my wiki crayonshinchan.shoutwiki.com 蠟筆小新,change name 維基電影,URL:movie.shoutwiki.com--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*Thanks.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*language:zh-tw-中文(台灣).--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:21, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I've opened a ticket about this on our Bugzilla &mdash; see [[bz:172]]. This seems to be a complicated operation, which is why it's best for a member of the [[technical staff]] to handle this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
*ok.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 06:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== 5 wikis ==<br />
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I'm getting a message that I've already created 5 wikis. I have only created 3, though.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Like a few posts above - it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 04:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Question about the problem with creating wikis ==<br />
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I know this topic has already been discussed and that it is working on being fixed. I was just curious that, when the problem is fixed, if those wikis, that were supposedly created will be removed as well.<br />
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[[User:Morbidangelx07|Morbidangelx07]] ([[User talk:Morbidangelx07|talk]]) 07:33, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] is the main tech working on CreateWiki-related things, please contact him. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Updates for [[s:w:stargate|Stargate Wiki]] ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/> I don't if the contact email worked, but is it possible please to add some stuff for Stargate Wiki?<br />
* Namespaces:<br />
** '''Episode''' (to be counted on statistics)<br />
** '''Mythology''' (to be counted on statistics)<br />
** '''Spoiler''' (to be counted on statistics)<br />
** '''Interview''' (to be counted on statistics)<br />
** '''Portal''' (to be excluded from statistics)<br />
** '''Project''' (to be excluded from statistics)<br />
* Install the Semantic MediaWiki extension<br />
* Enable subpages.<br />
Thank you very much. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 08:25, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Hi LIMAFOX76, I've added these new namespaces (numbers range from 160 to 171), enabled subpages for the namespaces which are counted as content (Episode, Mythology, Spoiler and Interview) and enabled Semantic MediaWiki. Let me know if I forgot something or you need any further help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Did you enable subpages for mainspace and template namespaces? --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 16:48, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Subpages are enabled for the following namespaces globally (=in all ShoutWiki wikis): main, Talk, User, User talk, Project, Project talk, File talk, MediaWiki talk, Template, Template talk, Help, Help talk and Category talk. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 16:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::: Thank you very much Jack. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 16:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Hi, can I ask for some updates on my [http://cs.historica.shoutwiki.com Historica Wiki]? If it is possible, I would like to have '''Dokument''' namespace added (not countable if possible). --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 17:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. Dokument namespace has the internal ID number of 130 and Dokument_diskuse has the ID of 131 and pages in the Dokument NS are not counted towards content count on [[Special:Statistics]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Thanks a lot --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 18:10, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sysop powers on awa ==<br />
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Hi jack. I had been granted sysop powers on [[s:w:awa|AWA]] before the crash, and they were lost. I contacted the admin to ask him to re-grant them four days ago, and I recieved no response. Could you grant me sysop powers there? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:27, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks. [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:12, 6 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== WikiForum ==<br />
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Wow! really cool feature. Is that the extension you were talking about? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes! Finally a proper discussion forum for MediaWikis! It has a few rough edges, but I'm still gonna say that it's a lot better than most of the pre-existing forum solutions for MediaWiki (such as [[mw:Extension:DPLforum|the DPLforum extension]], various bridges with "real" forums, i.e. phpBB, Invision Power Board, vBulletin, etc.). And I won't be pinged every time someone posts something on WikiForum! ;-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix#top|talk]]) 17:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I would love to have this feature enabled for [[s:w:icehockey]], but I can't find the [[Special:WikiForum]] page. Does this need to be activated upon request? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:37, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Right now the feature is undergoing final testing, here on Hub, after that it will be available on request. We have tested it privately on a separate wiki, as well as publicly on Jedipedia. Right now we want to do some final testing here on hub, where it will be more actively used to make sure there are no remaining bugs. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 17:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion request ==<br />
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Could you delete the wiki I linked you to on IRC? [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 00:51, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:''Et voilà !'' It's been done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] ([[User talk:Jack Phoenix#top|talk]]) 00:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Autopedia update ==<br />
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Do you know how misza is progressing With the recovery of autopedia? He hasn't responded to the question on his talk. Sorry if I sound impatient, I'm just quite concerned with the situation.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 04:23, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:We've waited way too long. You've acerbated me. I am furious with you all right now. If this goes on to 60 days +, I will blow up whether you like it or not. We've currently lost the 2012 Volkswagen New Beelte, Jaguar C-X75, Porsche Panamera Diesel, and more. But who friggin cares right? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 08:54, 8 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::@Silver Knight, I've been getting updates frequently via IRC. The only problem is, there is nothing to update. They have tried a few things to no avail. i know you're angry, but you can't do anything. If you "blow up", all that'll happen is that you get a block for a few days. <br />
::@Hockeyben, Misza rarely replies to talk page comments. Don't take it personally. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:10, 8 May 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_6&diff=5544User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 62011-05-05T09:10:23Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Delete ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[s:w:oreo|Oreo Wiki]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 08:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Log-in/out error ==<br />
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I seem to be periodically logging in and logging out during page changes. [[Special:Contributions/150.203.222.179|150.203.222.179]] 12:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
There see it happened again. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]<br />
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:Do you have the "remember me" option enabled? If not, that could be a reason why you're being logged out...if the problem persists, please report it on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. Be sure to include details about your browser and operating system in the report, too (you can get some useful info about your computer by visiting [[Special:MyInfo]]). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How do ==<br />
How do I invite users to a private wiki?--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]])<br />
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:Use the '''Special:Invite''' [[Help:Special pages|special page]]. A log of invitations (and the removal of invitations) is kept at '''Special:Log/invite'''. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[http://zh.potocoso.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:Invite see],I do ,but i look not .--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]]) 04:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It was missing from your wiki for some odd reason. I've added it so it should work now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
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I have made a gallery for [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off my wiki]. How do I get a fifth picture to appear on the first row? That way, it can cover the whole line of the main page columns. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 16:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding <code>perrow=5</code> to the gallery tag should work, ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I tried this, and I wasn't able to get it to work. Would you (or Jack) mind going over there, and trying to get it to work? The 5 images are in the gallery on the Main page. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 21:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Worked for me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:42, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Center ==<br />
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How do I get the News Feed on [[s:w:icehockey]] to appear in the middle of the page? I've tried some methods that have worked for other parts of the page, but not for the RSS News Feed. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 20:33, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Is that what you wanted? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Perfect. Thanks. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I think there is a big issue with the BASEPAGENAME and The SUBPAGENAME magic words in ShoutWiki in general. For an example, you see [http://eureka.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Str_left/doc this page] as normaly his BASEPAGENAME equals to "'''Str left'''" but not here. It equals "'''Str left/doc'''". That makes a big issue for transcluded pages and with templates which has to find the BASEPAGENAME. That was a problem I noticed month ago with [[s:w:fr.stargate|Stargate Wiki]]. Do you have an answer for this?<br/>Thanks. Regards. --[[Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 26 février 2011 à 10:30 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied on [[s:w:fr:Discussion utilisateur:Jack Phoenix#SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue.]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I think you are not permit a template page to have a SUBPAGE. In other page ,such as [[User_talk:Summerking/SUBPAGE]], <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki> work well. And it will diaplay a tagline "'''< User talk:Summerking'''" to let visitor go back to the 'parent' page. But in template page, it's not. Just like what [[s:w:fr:Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] say. So I have to use '''<nowiki>{{#titleparts: {{BASEPAGENAME}} | 1}}</nowiki>'''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 21:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Good catch, Summerking! I've enabled subpages in the template namespace (added NS_TEMPLATE => true to [[mw:Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages|$wgNamespacesWithSubpages]]; now the only namespaces where subpages are '''not''' enabled are File, MediaWiki and Category), so maybe it works now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::I consider '''main namespace''' should '''NOT''' have sub-pages, or the article like ''<nowiki>[[GNU/Linux_naming_controversy]]</nowiki>'' will be treated as the sub-page of ''<nowiki>[[GNU]]</nowiki>''. See also [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages|Wikipedia:Subpages]], and it suggest a temp pages([[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:workpages|workpages]]) should be the sub-page of talk namespace, e.g. ''<nowiki>[[Talk:Example Article/Temp]]</nowiki>''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 11:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I consider page names like ''GNU/Linux naming controversy'' as [[wikipedia:Edge case|edge cases]]; it's possible that such problems occur, but relatively rare. If I were to turn off subpages in the main namespace, I'd assume that soon either my talk page or Bugzilla or both would be filled with requests to re-enable subpages in the main namespace. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hi Jack,<br/>is it possible to enable sub-pages on my different wikies in the added NAMESPACES (Episode, etc.). Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Hi Jack,<br/>I think you will have to do once again the activation of all my wikis added NAMESPACES subpages due to server crashdown. Sorry. Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Subpages should be enabled for the custom namespaces which count towards the article count (see [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces|MediaWiki.org]] for the technical details) in [[s:w:fr.24]], [[s:w:fr.stargate]], [[s:w:eureka]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka]]. Let me know if I've missed a namespace and I'll fix it! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Autopedia? ==<br />
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Where the fuck is Autopedia? Everyone's out there smiling and happy editing, except for Autopedia. We've lost over 5 weeks of car updates. Autopedia is one ShoutWiki's biggest and important wiki. I hope Autopedia is back up because I am just about to explode. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*The techs are looking into those issues, I will ask for an update. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 21:39, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
**Also, using the word ''fuck'' will not make things any faster, I know this from experience since I have used that word towards Wikia a many times and it never made anything faster or better. Just saying. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 21:41, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Silver's just frustrated with the situation, I am too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I can understand your frustration, and believe me, I was frustrated, too! The downtime was a lot longer than we even dared to imagine, but it's better to be safe than sorry.<br />
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:As for Autopedia, [[User:Misza|Misza]] is the tech working on that &mdash; please ask him for the current status of the project. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:::Oh Misza? How about he doesn't respond to any question. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:22, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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He hasnt responded in the past. Give him a day or two. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:53, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Premium skins ==<br />
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I really like the nimbus skin. When will it and the other premium skins become available? Thx [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:24, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Oops, almost forgot. What is the extension you wrote that was only available in 1.16? I'm really curious about it! [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:25, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:We hope that we'll be able to finalize the details on premium features during this summer.<br />
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:As for that extension I wrote, it'll need a bit of reviewing and given that it passes the review, it'll be installed here for testing and assuming that no outstanding issues will be found, it'll be then available for other wikis, too. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Where can I view these skins? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:19, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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[[s:w:premium]] look in your preferences there.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:32, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem in regards to creating a wiki. ==<br />
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Every time I try to create a wiki, it presents me with an error message, I go back and try to change things, but it still presents me with the same message. Although that is not entirely true, there have been two different messages I have encountered. It says that it's a syntax error? I can't understand the problem, and would greatly appreciate it if you would help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi Legion, you're not doing anything wrong. There's a bug in our wiki creation tool and [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] from our [[Technical staff|tech team]] is fixing it as we speak. Once he's done fixing, the tool should work properly again. You may want to stop by [[Help:IRC|our IRC channel, #ShoutWiki on irc.shoutwiki.com]] &mdash; many staff members, Skizzerz and myself included, are there. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Alright I will, thanks. --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 01:35, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem with a wiki creation ==<br />
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Hi, I dont know where to turn, so I write here. I am founder of Historica Wiki, then I tried to create Empire beyond the Stars Wiki, but I failed. My first attempt failed with some (I dont remember which) error message, then I tried three more times with this error message:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br/>CREATE DATABASE ebts_wiki<br/>from within function "". Database returned error "1007: Can't create database 'ebts_wiki'; database exists (localhost)".<br />
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So I assumed, that first creation failed, but shoutwiki still thinks, that it is created (when I tried to use url www.ebts.shoutwiki.com, it results in No such wiki page) and it wont allow to recreate it. Now, if I try create new wiki, it just says that ''You have already created 5 wikis. You cannot create any more.'', which isnt clearly true, because I created one functional and one functionless and made another three attempts to recreated it. What now? --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:28, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Eh, I just read post above... Sorry for my post. --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:34, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Yep, it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. I'll poke you when it's been fixed! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Can you message me too Jack, cheers.--[[User:Cook879|Cook879]] ([[User talk:Cook879|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Close ==<br />
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Hi. Please close: [[s:w:nba|NBA Wiki]], [[s:w:collegebasketball|Colelge Basketball]], [[s:w:nfl|NFL Wiki]], and [[s:w:collegefootball|College football wiki]]. Please note, I am not upset with shoutwiki or anything. These sites are dupliactes of two other sites I made, thus they are not needed. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:48, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
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I would be interested in adopting [http://football.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page football wiki]. What are the requirements for adopting? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:36, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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==Delete==<br />
Delete: Stargate Wiiki, Archaeology Wiki, Smallville Wiki, Dark Angel Wiki, Veronica Mars Wiki and Arrested Development Wiki. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:04, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Also delete Stargate Fanon Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:16, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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And finally: Escyos Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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As per letting LIMAFOX76 take the stargate domain, to that i say NO. Read [http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJack_Phoenix&diff=2979&oldid=2974 | your comment] and if need be i can get the other active users who used that site to vote to take it down. If LIMAFOX76 wants it he can re-create it afterwards. Dont become like Wikia and refuse to do so, look what happened when they did that. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It's for the communitys behalf. And limafox is part of the community. Just saying.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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10 NON-mainspace edits, 5 of which were last year doesnt really make him a great part of the community. I put in hours as did others. He has a stargate wiki and his english is terrible so why would he want an english one. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Ok after a few drinks, I've decided that the wikis should be left here so that wikia can die a slow painful death. LETS KILL WIKIA! WOOOOOO! [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 09:10, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== change name ==<br />
*hi,my wiki crayonshinchan.shoutwiki.com 蠟筆小新,change name 維基電影,URL:movie.shoutwiki.com--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*Thanks.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*language chinese(台灣).--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:21, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== 5 wikis ==<br />
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I'm getting a message that I've already created 5 wikis. I have only created 3, though.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Like a few posts above - it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 04:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_6&diff=5543User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 62011-05-05T05:30:18Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Delete ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[s:w:oreo|Oreo Wiki]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 08:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Log-in/out error ==<br />
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I seem to be periodically logging in and logging out during page changes. [[Special:Contributions/150.203.222.179|150.203.222.179]] 12:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
There see it happened again. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]<br />
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:Do you have the "remember me" option enabled? If not, that could be a reason why you're being logged out...if the problem persists, please report it on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. Be sure to include details about your browser and operating system in the report, too (you can get some useful info about your computer by visiting [[Special:MyInfo]]). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How do ==<br />
How do I invite users to a private wiki?--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]])<br />
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:Use the '''Special:Invite''' [[Help:Special pages|special page]]. A log of invitations (and the removal of invitations) is kept at '''Special:Log/invite'''. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[http://zh.potocoso.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:Invite see],I do ,but i look not .--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]]) 04:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It was missing from your wiki for some odd reason. I've added it so it should work now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
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I have made a gallery for [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off my wiki]. How do I get a fifth picture to appear on the first row? That way, it can cover the whole line of the main page columns. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 16:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding <code>perrow=5</code> to the gallery tag should work, ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I tried this, and I wasn't able to get it to work. Would you (or Jack) mind going over there, and trying to get it to work? The 5 images are in the gallery on the Main page. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 21:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Worked for me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:42, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Center ==<br />
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How do I get the News Feed on [[s:w:icehockey]] to appear in the middle of the page? I've tried some methods that have worked for other parts of the page, but not for the RSS News Feed. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 20:33, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Is that what you wanted? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Perfect. Thanks. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I think there is a big issue with the BASEPAGENAME and The SUBPAGENAME magic words in ShoutWiki in general. For an example, you see [http://eureka.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Str_left/doc this page] as normaly his BASEPAGENAME equals to "'''Str left'''" but not here. It equals "'''Str left/doc'''". That makes a big issue for transcluded pages and with templates which has to find the BASEPAGENAME. That was a problem I noticed month ago with [[s:w:fr.stargate|Stargate Wiki]]. Do you have an answer for this?<br/>Thanks. Regards. --[[Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 26 février 2011 à 10:30 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied on [[s:w:fr:Discussion utilisateur:Jack Phoenix#SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue.]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I think you are not permit a template page to have a SUBPAGE. In other page ,such as [[User_talk:Summerking/SUBPAGE]], <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki> work well. And it will diaplay a tagline "'''< User talk:Summerking'''" to let visitor go back to the 'parent' page. But in template page, it's not. Just like what [[s:w:fr:Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] say. So I have to use '''<nowiki>{{#titleparts: {{BASEPAGENAME}} | 1}}</nowiki>'''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 21:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Good catch, Summerking! I've enabled subpages in the template namespace (added NS_TEMPLATE => true to [[mw:Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages|$wgNamespacesWithSubpages]]; now the only namespaces where subpages are '''not''' enabled are File, MediaWiki and Category), so maybe it works now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::I consider '''main namespace''' should '''NOT''' have sub-pages, or the article like ''<nowiki>[[GNU/Linux_naming_controversy]]</nowiki>'' will be treated as the sub-page of ''<nowiki>[[GNU]]</nowiki>''. See also [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages|Wikipedia:Subpages]], and it suggest a temp pages([[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:workpages|workpages]]) should be the sub-page of talk namespace, e.g. ''<nowiki>[[Talk:Example Article/Temp]]</nowiki>''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 11:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I consider page names like ''GNU/Linux naming controversy'' as [[wikipedia:Edge case|edge cases]]; it's possible that such problems occur, but relatively rare. If I were to turn off subpages in the main namespace, I'd assume that soon either my talk page or Bugzilla or both would be filled with requests to re-enable subpages in the main namespace. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hi Jack,<br/>is it possible to enable sub-pages on my different wikies in the added NAMESPACES (Episode, etc.). Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Hi Jack,<br/>I think you will have to do once again the activation of all my wikis added NAMESPACES subpages due to server crashdown. Sorry. Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Subpages should be enabled for the custom namespaces which count towards the article count (see [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces|MediaWiki.org]] for the technical details) in [[s:w:fr.24]], [[s:w:fr.stargate]], [[s:w:eureka]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka]]. Let me know if I've missed a namespace and I'll fix it! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Autopedia? ==<br />
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Where the fuck is Autopedia? Everyone's out there smiling and happy editing, except for Autopedia. We've lost over 5 weeks of car updates. Autopedia is one ShoutWiki's biggest and important wiki. I hope Autopedia is back up because I am just about to explode. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*The techs are looking into those issues, I will ask for an update. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 21:39, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
**Also, using the word ''fuck'' will not make things any faster, I know this from experience since I have used that word towards Wikia a many times and it never made anything faster or better. Just saying. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 21:41, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Silver's just frustrated with the situation, I am too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I can understand your frustration, and believe me, I was frustrated, too! The downtime was a lot longer than we even dared to imagine, but it's better to be safe than sorry.<br />
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:As for Autopedia, [[User:Misza|Misza]] is the tech working on that &mdash; please ask him for the current status of the project. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:::Oh Misza? How about he doesn't respond to any question. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:22, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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He hasnt responded in the past. Give him a day or two. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:53, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Premium skins ==<br />
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I really like the nimbus skin. When will it and the other premium skins become available? Thx [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:24, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Oops, almost forgot. What is the extension you wrote that was only available in 1.16? I'm really curious about it! [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:25, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:We hope that we'll be able to finalize the details on premium features during this summer.<br />
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:As for that extension I wrote, it'll need a bit of reviewing and given that it passes the review, it'll be installed here for testing and assuming that no outstanding issues will be found, it'll be then available for other wikis, too. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Where can I view these skins? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:19, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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[[s:w:premium]] look in your preferences there.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:32, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem in regards to creating a wiki. ==<br />
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Every time I try to create a wiki, it presents me with an error message, I go back and try to change things, but it still presents me with the same message. Although that is not entirely true, there have been two different messages I have encountered. It says that it's a syntax error? I can't understand the problem, and would greatly appreciate it if you would help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi Legion, you're not doing anything wrong. There's a bug in our wiki creation tool and [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] from our [[Technical staff|tech team]] is fixing it as we speak. Once he's done fixing, the tool should work properly again. You may want to stop by [[Help:IRC|our IRC channel, #ShoutWiki on irc.shoutwiki.com]] &mdash; many staff members, Skizzerz and myself included, are there. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Alright I will, thanks. --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 01:35, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem with a wiki creation ==<br />
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Hi, I dont know where to turn, so I write here. I am founder of Historica Wiki, then I tried to create Empire beyond the Stars Wiki, but I failed. My first attempt failed with some (I dont remember which) error message, then I tried three more times with this error message:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br/>CREATE DATABASE ebts_wiki<br/>from within function "". Database returned error "1007: Can't create database 'ebts_wiki'; database exists (localhost)".<br />
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So I assumed, that first creation failed, but shoutwiki still thinks, that it is created (when I tried to use url www.ebts.shoutwiki.com, it results in No such wiki page) and it wont allow to recreate it. Now, if I try create new wiki, it just says that ''You have already created 5 wikis. You cannot create any more.'', which isnt clearly true, because I created one functional and one functionless and made another three attempts to recreated it. What now? --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:28, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Eh, I just read post above... Sorry for my post. --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:34, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Yep, it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. I'll poke you when it's been fixed! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Can you message me too Jack, cheers.--[[User:Cook879|Cook879]] ([[User talk:Cook879|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Close ==<br />
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Hi. Please close: [[s:w:nba|NBA Wiki]], [[s:w:collegebasketball|Colelge Basketball]], [[s:w:nfl|NFL Wiki]], and [[s:w:collegefootball|College football wiki]]. Please note, I am not upset with shoutwiki or anything. These sites are dupliactes of two other sites I made, thus they are not needed. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:48, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
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I would be interested in adopting [http://football.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page football wiki]. What are the requirements for adopting? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:36, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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==Delete==<br />
Delete: Stargate Wiiki, Archaeology Wiki, Smallville Wiki, Dark Angel Wiki, Veronica Mars Wiki and Arrested Development Wiki. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:04, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Also delete Stargate Fanon Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:16, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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And finally: Escyos Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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As per letting LIMAFOX76 take the stargate domain, to that i say NO. Read [http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJack_Phoenix&diff=2979&oldid=2974 | your comment] and if need be i can get the other active users who used that site to vote to take it down. If LIMAFOX76 wants it he can re-create it afterwards. Dont become like Wikia and refuse to do so, look what happened when they did that. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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It's for the communitys behalf. And limafox is part of the community. Just saying.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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10 NON-mainspace edits, 5 of which were last year doesnt really make him a great part of the community. I put in hours as did others. He has a stargate wiki and his english is terrible so why would he want an english one. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== change name ==<br />
*hi,my wiki crayonshinchan.shoutwiki.com 蠟筆小新,change name 維基電影,URL:movie.shoutwiki.com--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*Thanks.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*language chinese(台灣).--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:21, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== 5 wikis ==<br />
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I'm getting a message that I've already created 5 wikis. I have only created 3, though.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Like a few posts above - it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 04:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_6&diff=5541User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 62011-05-05T05:18:11Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Delete ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[s:w:oreo|Oreo Wiki]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 08:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Log-in/out error ==<br />
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I seem to be periodically logging in and logging out during page changes. [[Special:Contributions/150.203.222.179|150.203.222.179]] 12:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
There see it happened again. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]<br />
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:Do you have the "remember me" option enabled? If not, that could be a reason why you're being logged out...if the problem persists, please report it on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. Be sure to include details about your browser and operating system in the report, too (you can get some useful info about your computer by visiting [[Special:MyInfo]]). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How do ==<br />
How do I invite users to a private wiki?--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]])<br />
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:Use the '''Special:Invite''' [[Help:Special pages|special page]]. A log of invitations (and the removal of invitations) is kept at '''Special:Log/invite'''. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[http://zh.potocoso.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:Invite see],I do ,but i look not .--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]]) 04:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It was missing from your wiki for some odd reason. I've added it so it should work now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
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I have made a gallery for [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off my wiki]. How do I get a fifth picture to appear on the first row? That way, it can cover the whole line of the main page columns. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 16:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding <code>perrow=5</code> to the gallery tag should work, ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I tried this, and I wasn't able to get it to work. Would you (or Jack) mind going over there, and trying to get it to work? The 5 images are in the gallery on the Main page. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 21:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Worked for me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:42, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Center ==<br />
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How do I get the News Feed on [[s:w:icehockey]] to appear in the middle of the page? I've tried some methods that have worked for other parts of the page, but not for the RSS News Feed. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 20:33, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Is that what you wanted? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Perfect. Thanks. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I think there is a big issue with the BASEPAGENAME and The SUBPAGENAME magic words in ShoutWiki in general. For an example, you see [http://eureka.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Str_left/doc this page] as normaly his BASEPAGENAME equals to "'''Str left'''" but not here. It equals "'''Str left/doc'''". That makes a big issue for transcluded pages and with templates which has to find the BASEPAGENAME. That was a problem I noticed month ago with [[s:w:fr.stargate|Stargate Wiki]]. Do you have an answer for this?<br/>Thanks. Regards. --[[Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 26 février 2011 à 10:30 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied on [[s:w:fr:Discussion utilisateur:Jack Phoenix#SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue.]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I think you are not permit a template page to have a SUBPAGE. In other page ,such as [[User_talk:Summerking/SUBPAGE]], <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki> work well. And it will diaplay a tagline "'''< User talk:Summerking'''" to let visitor go back to the 'parent' page. But in template page, it's not. Just like what [[s:w:fr:Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] say. So I have to use '''<nowiki>{{#titleparts: {{BASEPAGENAME}} | 1}}</nowiki>'''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 21:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Good catch, Summerking! I've enabled subpages in the template namespace (added NS_TEMPLATE => true to [[mw:Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages|$wgNamespacesWithSubpages]]; now the only namespaces where subpages are '''not''' enabled are File, MediaWiki and Category), so maybe it works now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::I consider '''main namespace''' should '''NOT''' have sub-pages, or the article like ''<nowiki>[[GNU/Linux_naming_controversy]]</nowiki>'' will be treated as the sub-page of ''<nowiki>[[GNU]]</nowiki>''. See also [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages|Wikipedia:Subpages]], and it suggest a temp pages([[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:workpages|workpages]]) should be the sub-page of talk namespace, e.g. ''<nowiki>[[Talk:Example Article/Temp]]</nowiki>''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 11:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I consider page names like ''GNU/Linux naming controversy'' as [[wikipedia:Edge case|edge cases]]; it's possible that such problems occur, but relatively rare. If I were to turn off subpages in the main namespace, I'd assume that soon either my talk page or Bugzilla or both would be filled with requests to re-enable subpages in the main namespace. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hi Jack,<br/>is it possible to enable sub-pages on my different wikies in the added NAMESPACES (Episode, etc.). Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Hi Jack,<br/>I think you will have to do once again the activation of all my wikis added NAMESPACES subpages due to server crashdown. Sorry. Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Subpages should be enabled for the custom namespaces which count towards the article count (see [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces|MediaWiki.org]] for the technical details) in [[s:w:fr.24]], [[s:w:fr.stargate]], [[s:w:eureka]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka]]. Let me know if I've missed a namespace and I'll fix it! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Autopedia? ==<br />
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Where the fuck is Autopedia? Everyone's out there smiling and happy editing, except for Autopedia. We've lost over 5 weeks of car updates. Autopedia is one ShoutWiki's biggest and important wiki. I hope Autopedia is back up because I am just about to explode. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*The techs are looking into those issues, I will ask for an update. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 21:39, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
**Also, using the word ''fuck'' will not make things any faster, I know this from experience since I have used that word towards Wikia a many times and it never made anything faster or better. Just saying. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 21:41, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Silver's just frustrated with the situation, I am too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I can understand your frustration, and believe me, I was frustrated, too! The downtime was a lot longer than we even dared to imagine, but it's better to be safe than sorry.<br />
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:As for Autopedia, [[User:Misza|Misza]] is the tech working on that &mdash; please ask him for the current status of the project. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:::Oh Misza? How about he doesn't respond to any question. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:22, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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He hasnt responded in the past. Give him a day or two. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:53, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Premium skins ==<br />
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I really like the nimbus skin. When will it and the other premium skins become available? Thx [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:24, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Oops, almost forgot. What is the extension you wrote that was only available in 1.16? I'm really curious about it! [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:25, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:We hope that we'll be able to finalize the details on premium features during this summer.<br />
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:As for that extension I wrote, it'll need a bit of reviewing and given that it passes the review, it'll be installed here for testing and assuming that no outstanding issues will be found, it'll be then available for other wikis, too. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Where can I view these skins? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:19, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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[[s:w:premium]] look in your preferences there.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:32, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem in regards to creating a wiki. ==<br />
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Every time I try to create a wiki, it presents me with an error message, I go back and try to change things, but it still presents me with the same message. Although that is not entirely true, there have been two different messages I have encountered. It says that it's a syntax error? I can't understand the problem, and would greatly appreciate it if you would help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi Legion, you're not doing anything wrong. There's a bug in our wiki creation tool and [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] from our [[Technical staff|tech team]] is fixing it as we speak. Once he's done fixing, the tool should work properly again. You may want to stop by [[Help:IRC|our IRC channel, #ShoutWiki on irc.shoutwiki.com]] &mdash; many staff members, Skizzerz and myself included, are there. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Alright I will, thanks. --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 01:35, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem with a wiki creation ==<br />
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Hi, I dont know where to turn, so I write here. I am founder of Historica Wiki, then I tried to create Empire beyond the Stars Wiki, but I failed. My first attempt failed with some (I dont remember which) error message, then I tried three more times with this error message:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br/>CREATE DATABASE ebts_wiki<br/>from within function "". Database returned error "1007: Can't create database 'ebts_wiki'; database exists (localhost)".<br />
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So I assumed, that first creation failed, but shoutwiki still thinks, that it is created (when I tried to use url www.ebts.shoutwiki.com, it results in No such wiki page) and it wont allow to recreate it. Now, if I try create new wiki, it just says that ''You have already created 5 wikis. You cannot create any more.'', which isnt clearly true, because I created one functional and one functionless and made another three attempts to recreated it. What now? --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:28, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Eh, I just read post above... Sorry for my post. --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:34, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Yep, it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. I'll poke you when it's been fixed! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Can you message me too Jack, cheers.--[[User:Cook879|Cook879]] ([[User talk:Cook879|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Close ==<br />
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Hi. Please close: [[s:w:nba|NBA Wiki]], [[s:w:collegebasketball|Colelge Basketball]], [[s:w:nfl|NFL Wiki]], and [[s:w:collegefootball|College football wiki]]. Please note, I am not upset with shoutwiki or anything. These sites are dupliactes of two other sites I made, thus they are not needed. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:48, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
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I would be interested in adopting [http://football.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page football wiki]. What are the requirements for adopting? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:36, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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==Delete==<br />
Delete: Stargate Wiiki, Archaeology Wiki, Smallville Wiki, Dark Angel Wiki, Veronica Mars Wiki and Arrested Development Wiki. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:04, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Also delete Stargate Fanon Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:16, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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And finally: Escyos Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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As per letting LIMAFOX76 take the stargate domain, to that i say NO. Read [http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJack_Phoenix&diff=2979&oldid=2974 | your comment] and if need be i can get the other active users who used that site to vote to take it down. If LIMAFOX76 wants it he can re-create it afterwards. Dont become like Wikia and refuse to do so, look what happened when they did that. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 05:18, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== change name ==<br />
*hi,my wiki crayonshinchan.shoutwiki.com 蠟筆小新,change name 維基電影,URL:movie.shoutwiki.com--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*Thanks.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*language chinese(台灣).--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:21, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== 5 wikis ==<br />
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I'm getting a message that I've already created 5 wikis. I have only created 3, though.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:17, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Like a few posts above - it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 04:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_6&diff=5534User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 62011-05-05T00:42:05Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Delete ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[s:w:oreo|Oreo Wiki]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 08:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Log-in/out error ==<br />
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I seem to be periodically logging in and logging out during page changes. [[Special:Contributions/150.203.222.179|150.203.222.179]] 12:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
There see it happened again. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]<br />
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:Do you have the "remember me" option enabled? If not, that could be a reason why you're being logged out...if the problem persists, please report it on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. Be sure to include details about your browser and operating system in the report, too (you can get some useful info about your computer by visiting [[Special:MyInfo]]). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How do ==<br />
How do I invite users to a private wiki?--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]])<br />
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:Use the '''Special:Invite''' [[Help:Special pages|special page]]. A log of invitations (and the removal of invitations) is kept at '''Special:Log/invite'''. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[http://zh.potocoso.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:Invite see],I do ,but i look not .--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]]) 04:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It was missing from your wiki for some odd reason. I've added it so it should work now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
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I have made a gallery for [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off my wiki]. How do I get a fifth picture to appear on the first row? That way, it can cover the whole line of the main page columns. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 16:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding <code>perrow=5</code> to the gallery tag should work, ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I tried this, and I wasn't able to get it to work. Would you (or Jack) mind going over there, and trying to get it to work? The 5 images are in the gallery on the Main page. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 21:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Worked for me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:42, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Center ==<br />
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How do I get the News Feed on [[s:w:icehockey]] to appear in the middle of the page? I've tried some methods that have worked for other parts of the page, but not for the RSS News Feed. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 20:33, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Is that what you wanted? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Perfect. Thanks. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I think there is a big issue with the BASEPAGENAME and The SUBPAGENAME magic words in ShoutWiki in general. For an example, you see [http://eureka.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Str_left/doc this page] as normaly his BASEPAGENAME equals to "'''Str left'''" but not here. It equals "'''Str left/doc'''". That makes a big issue for transcluded pages and with templates which has to find the BASEPAGENAME. That was a problem I noticed month ago with [[s:w:fr.stargate|Stargate Wiki]]. Do you have an answer for this?<br/>Thanks. Regards. --[[Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 26 février 2011 à 10:30 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied on [[s:w:fr:Discussion utilisateur:Jack Phoenix#SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue.]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I think you are not permit a template page to have a SUBPAGE. In other page ,such as [[User_talk:Summerking/SUBPAGE]], <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki> work well. And it will diaplay a tagline "'''< User talk:Summerking'''" to let visitor go back to the 'parent' page. But in template page, it's not. Just like what [[s:w:fr:Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] say. So I have to use '''<nowiki>{{#titleparts: {{BASEPAGENAME}} | 1}}</nowiki>'''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 21:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Good catch, Summerking! I've enabled subpages in the template namespace (added NS_TEMPLATE => true to [[mw:Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages|$wgNamespacesWithSubpages]]; now the only namespaces where subpages are '''not''' enabled are File, MediaWiki and Category), so maybe it works now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::I consider '''main namespace''' should '''NOT''' have sub-pages, or the article like ''<nowiki>[[GNU/Linux_naming_controversy]]</nowiki>'' will be treated as the sub-page of ''<nowiki>[[GNU]]</nowiki>''. See also [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages|Wikipedia:Subpages]], and it suggest a temp pages([[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:workpages|workpages]]) should be the sub-page of talk namespace, e.g. ''<nowiki>[[Talk:Example Article/Temp]]</nowiki>''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 11:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I consider page names like ''GNU/Linux naming controversy'' as [[wikipedia:Edge case|edge cases]]; it's possible that such problems occur, but relatively rare. If I were to turn off subpages in the main namespace, I'd assume that soon either my talk page or Bugzilla or both would be filled with requests to re-enable subpages in the main namespace. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hi Jack,<br/>is it possible to enable sub-pages on my different wikies in the added NAMESPACES (Episode, etc.). Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Hi Jack,<br/>I think you will have to do once again the activation of all my wikis added NAMESPACES subpages due to server crashdown. Sorry. Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Subpages should be enabled for the custom namespaces which count towards the article count (see [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces|MediaWiki.org]] for the technical details) in [[s:w:fr.24]], [[s:w:fr.stargate]], [[s:w:eureka]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka]]. Let me know if I've missed a namespace and I'll fix it! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Autopedia? ==<br />
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Where the fuck is Autopedia? Everyone's out there smiling and happy editing, except for Autopedia. We've lost over 5 weeks of car updates. Autopedia is one ShoutWiki's biggest and important wiki. I hope Autopedia is back up because I am just about to explode. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*The techs are looking into those issues, I will ask for an update. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 21:39, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
**Also, using the word ''fuck'' will not make things any faster, I know this from experience since I have used that word towards Wikia a many times and it never made anything faster or better. Just saying. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 21:41, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Silver's just frustrated with the situation, I am too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I can understand your frustration, and believe me, I was frustrated, too! The downtime was a lot longer than we even dared to imagine, but it's better to be safe than sorry.<br />
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:As for Autopedia, [[User:Misza|Misza]] is the tech working on that &mdash; please ask him for the current status of the project. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:::Oh Misza? How about he doesn't respond to any question. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:22, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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He hasnt responded in the past. Give him a day or two. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:53, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Premium skins ==<br />
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I really like the nimbus skin. When will it and the other premium skins become available? Thx [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:24, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Oops, almost forgot. What is the extension you wrote that was only available in 1.16? I'm really curious about it! [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:25, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:We hope that we'll be able to finalize the details on premium features during this summer.<br />
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:As for that extension I wrote, it'll need a bit of reviewing and given that it passes the review, it'll be installed here for testing and assuming that no outstanding issues will be found, it'll be then available for other wikis, too. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Where can I view these skins? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:19, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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[[s:w:premium]] look in your preferences there.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:32, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem in regards to creating a wiki. ==<br />
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Every time I try to create a wiki, it presents me with an error message, I go back and try to change things, but it still presents me with the same message. Although that is not entirely true, there have been two different messages I have encountered. It says that it's a syntax error? I can't understand the problem, and would greatly appreciate it if you would help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi Legion, you're not doing anything wrong. There's a bug in our wiki creation tool and [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] from our [[Technical staff|tech team]] is fixing it as we speak. Once he's done fixing, the tool should work properly again. You may want to stop by [[Help:IRC|our IRC channel, #ShoutWiki on irc.shoutwiki.com]] &mdash; many staff members, Skizzerz and myself included, are there. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Alright I will, thanks. --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 01:35, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem with a wiki creation ==<br />
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Hi, I dont know where to turn, so I write here. I am founder of Historica Wiki, then I tried to create Empire beyond the Stars Wiki, but I failed. My first attempt failed with some (I dont remember which) error message, then I tried three more times with this error message:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br/>CREATE DATABASE ebts_wiki<br/>from within function "". Database returned error "1007: Can't create database 'ebts_wiki'; database exists (localhost)".<br />
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So I assumed, that first creation failed, but shoutwiki still thinks, that it is created (when I tried to use url www.ebts.shoutwiki.com, it results in No such wiki page) and it wont allow to recreate it. Now, if I try create new wiki, it just says that ''You have already created 5 wikis. You cannot create any more.'', which isnt clearly true, because I created one functional and one functionless and made another three attempts to recreated it. What now? --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:28, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Eh, I just read post above... Sorry for my post. --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:34, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Yep, it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. I'll poke you when it's been fixed! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Can you message me too Jack, cheers.--[[User:Cook879|Cook879]] ([[User talk:Cook879|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Close ==<br />
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Hi. Please close: [[s:w:nba|NBA Wiki]], [[s:w:collegebasketball|Colelge Basketball]], [[s:w:nfl|NFL Wiki]], and [[s:w:collegefootball|College football wiki]]. Please note, I am not upset with shoutwiki or anything. These sites are dupliactes of two other sites I made, thus they are not needed. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:48, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
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I would be interested in adopting [http://football.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page football wiki]. What are the requirements for adopting? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:36, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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==Delete==<br />
Delete: Stargate Wiiki, Archaeology Wiki, Smallville Wiki, Dark Angel Wiki, Veronica Mars Wiki and Arrested Development Wiki. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:04, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Also delete Stargate Fanon Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:16, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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And finally: Escyos Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== change name ==<br />
*hi,my wiki crayonshinchan.shoutwiki.com 蠟筆小新,change name 維基電影,URL:movie.shoutwiki.com--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*Thanks.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:19, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*language chinese(台灣).--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 04:21, 5 May 2011 (MSD)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_6&diff=5531User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 62011-05-05T00:16:30Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Delete ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[s:w:oreo|Oreo Wiki]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 08:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Log-in/out error ==<br />
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I seem to be periodically logging in and logging out during page changes. [[Special:Contributions/150.203.222.179|150.203.222.179]] 12:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
There see it happened again. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]<br />
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:Do you have the "remember me" option enabled? If not, that could be a reason why you're being logged out...if the problem persists, please report it on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. Be sure to include details about your browser and operating system in the report, too (you can get some useful info about your computer by visiting [[Special:MyInfo]]). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How do ==<br />
How do I invite users to a private wiki?--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]])<br />
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:Use the '''Special:Invite''' [[Help:Special pages|special page]]. A log of invitations (and the removal of invitations) is kept at '''Special:Log/invite'''. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[http://zh.potocoso.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:Invite see],I do ,but i look not .--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]]) 04:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It was missing from your wiki for some odd reason. I've added it so it should work now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
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I have made a gallery for [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off my wiki]. How do I get a fifth picture to appear on the first row? That way, it can cover the whole line of the main page columns. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 16:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding <code>perrow=5</code> to the gallery tag should work, ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I tried this, and I wasn't able to get it to work. Would you (or Jack) mind going over there, and trying to get it to work? The 5 images are in the gallery on the Main page. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 21:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Worked for me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:42, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Center ==<br />
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How do I get the News Feed on [[s:w:icehockey]] to appear in the middle of the page? I've tried some methods that have worked for other parts of the page, but not for the RSS News Feed. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 20:33, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Is that what you wanted? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Perfect. Thanks. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I think there is a big issue with the BASEPAGENAME and The SUBPAGENAME magic words in ShoutWiki in general. For an example, you see [http://eureka.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Str_left/doc this page] as normaly his BASEPAGENAME equals to "'''Str left'''" but not here. It equals "'''Str left/doc'''". That makes a big issue for transcluded pages and with templates which has to find the BASEPAGENAME. That was a problem I noticed month ago with [[s:w:fr.stargate|Stargate Wiki]]. Do you have an answer for this?<br/>Thanks. Regards. --[[Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 26 février 2011 à 10:30 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied on [[s:w:fr:Discussion utilisateur:Jack Phoenix#SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue.]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I think you are not permit a template page to have a SUBPAGE. In other page ,such as [[User_talk:Summerking/SUBPAGE]], <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki> work well. And it will diaplay a tagline "'''< User talk:Summerking'''" to let visitor go back to the 'parent' page. But in template page, it's not. Just like what [[s:w:fr:Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] say. So I have to use '''<nowiki>{{#titleparts: {{BASEPAGENAME}} | 1}}</nowiki>'''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 21:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Good catch, Summerking! I've enabled subpages in the template namespace (added NS_TEMPLATE => true to [[mw:Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages|$wgNamespacesWithSubpages]]; now the only namespaces where subpages are '''not''' enabled are File, MediaWiki and Category), so maybe it works now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::I consider '''main namespace''' should '''NOT''' have sub-pages, or the article like ''<nowiki>[[GNU/Linux_naming_controversy]]</nowiki>'' will be treated as the sub-page of ''<nowiki>[[GNU]]</nowiki>''. See also [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages|Wikipedia:Subpages]], and it suggest a temp pages([[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:workpages|workpages]]) should be the sub-page of talk namespace, e.g. ''<nowiki>[[Talk:Example Article/Temp]]</nowiki>''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 11:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I consider page names like ''GNU/Linux naming controversy'' as [[wikipedia:Edge case|edge cases]]; it's possible that such problems occur, but relatively rare. If I were to turn off subpages in the main namespace, I'd assume that soon either my talk page or Bugzilla or both would be filled with requests to re-enable subpages in the main namespace. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hi Jack,<br/>is it possible to enable sub-pages on my different wikies in the added NAMESPACES (Episode, etc.). Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Hi Jack,<br/>I think you will have to do once again the activation of all my wikis added NAMESPACES subpages due to server crashdown. Sorry. Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Subpages should be enabled for the custom namespaces which count towards the article count (see [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces|MediaWiki.org]] for the technical details) in [[s:w:fr.24]], [[s:w:fr.stargate]], [[s:w:eureka]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka]]. Let me know if I've missed a namespace and I'll fix it! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Autopedia? ==<br />
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Where the fuck is Autopedia? Everyone's out there smiling and happy editing, except for Autopedia. We've lost over 5 weeks of car updates. Autopedia is one ShoutWiki's biggest and important wiki. I hope Autopedia is back up because I am just about to explode. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*The techs are looking into those issues, I will ask for an update. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 21:39, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
**Also, using the word ''fuck'' will not make things any faster, I know this from experience since I have used that word towards Wikia a many times and it never made anything faster or better. Just saying. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 21:41, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Silver's just frustrated with the situation, I am too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I can understand your frustration, and believe me, I was frustrated, too! The downtime was a lot longer than we even dared to imagine, but it's better to be safe than sorry.<br />
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:As for Autopedia, [[User:Misza|Misza]] is the tech working on that &mdash; please ask him for the current status of the project. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:::Oh Misza? How about he doesn't respond to any question. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:22, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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He hasnt responded in the past. Give him a day or two. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:53, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Premium skins ==<br />
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I really like the nimbus skin. When will it and the other premium skins become available? Thx [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:24, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Oops, almost forgot. What is the extension you wrote that was only available in 1.16? I'm really curious about it! [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:25, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:We hope that we'll be able to finalize the details on premium features during this summer.<br />
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:As for that extension I wrote, it'll need a bit of reviewing and given that it passes the review, it'll be installed here for testing and assuming that no outstanding issues will be found, it'll be then available for other wikis, too. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Where can I view these skins? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:19, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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[[s:w:premium]] look in your preferences there.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:32, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem in regards to creating a wiki. ==<br />
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Every time I try to create a wiki, it presents me with an error message, I go back and try to change things, but it still presents me with the same message. Although that is not entirely true, there have been two different messages I have encountered. It says that it's a syntax error? I can't understand the problem, and would greatly appreciate it if you would help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi Legion, you're not doing anything wrong. There's a bug in our wiki creation tool and [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] from our [[Technical staff|tech team]] is fixing it as we speak. Once he's done fixing, the tool should work properly again. You may want to stop by [[Help:IRC|our IRC channel, #ShoutWiki on irc.shoutwiki.com]] &mdash; many staff members, Skizzerz and myself included, are there. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Alright I will, thanks. --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 01:35, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem with a wiki creation ==<br />
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Hi, I dont know where to turn, so I write here. I am founder of Historica Wiki, then I tried to create Empire beyond the Stars Wiki, but I failed. My first attempt failed with some (I dont remember which) error message, then I tried three more times with this error message:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br/>CREATE DATABASE ebts_wiki<br/>from within function "". Database returned error "1007: Can't create database 'ebts_wiki'; database exists (localhost)".<br />
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So I assumed, that first creation failed, but shoutwiki still thinks, that it is created (when I tried to use url www.ebts.shoutwiki.com, it results in No such wiki page) and it wont allow to recreate it. Now, if I try create new wiki, it just says that ''You have already created 5 wikis. You cannot create any more.'', which isnt clearly true, because I created one functional and one functionless and made another three attempts to recreated it. What now? --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:28, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Eh, I just read post above... Sorry for my post. --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:34, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Yep, it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. I'll poke you when it's been fixed! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Can you message me too Jack, cheers.--[[User:Cook879|Cook879]] ([[User talk:Cook879|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Close ==<br />
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Hi. Please close: [[s:w:nba|NBA Wiki]], [[s:w:collegebasketball|Colelge Basketball]], [[s:w:nfl|NFL Wiki]], and [[s:w:collegefootball|College football wiki]]. Please note, I am not upset with shoutwiki or anything. These sites are dupliactes of two other sites I made, thus they are not needed. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:48, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
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I would be interested in adopting [http://football.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page football wiki]. What are the requirements for adopting? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:36, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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==Delete==<br />
Delete: Stargate Wiiki, Archaeology Wiki, Smallville Wiki, Dark Angel Wiki, Veronica Mars Wiki and Arrested Development Wiki. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:04, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Also delete Stargate Fanon Wiki [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:16, 5 May 2011 (MSD)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_6&diff=5530User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 62011-05-05T00:04:53Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Delete ==<br />
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Could you please delete [[s:w:oreo|Oreo Wiki]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:57, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 08:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Log-in/out error ==<br />
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I seem to be periodically logging in and logging out during page changes. [[Special:Contributions/150.203.222.179|150.203.222.179]] 12:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
There see it happened again. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]]<br />
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:Do you have the "remember me" option enabled? If not, that could be a reason why you're being logged out...if the problem persists, please report it on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. Be sure to include details about your browser and operating system in the report, too (you can get some useful info about your computer by visiting [[Special:MyInfo]]). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How do ==<br />
How do I invite users to a private wiki?--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]])<br />
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:Use the '''Special:Invite''' [[Help:Special pages|special page]]. A log of invitations (and the removal of invitations) is kept at '''Special:Log/invite'''. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[http://zh.potocoso.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:Invite see],I do ,but i look not .--[[User:Potocoso|Potocoso]] ([[User talk:Potocoso|talk]]) 04:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It was missing from your wiki for some odd reason. I've added it so it should work now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Gallery ==<br />
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I have made a gallery for [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off my wiki]. How do I get a fifth picture to appear on the first row? That way, it can cover the whole line of the main page columns. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 16:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Adding <code>perrow=5</code> to the gallery tag should work, ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I tried this, and I wasn't able to get it to work. Would you (or Jack) mind going over there, and trying to get it to work? The 5 images are in the gallery on the Main page. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 21:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Worked for me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:42, 6 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Center ==<br />
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How do I get the News Feed on [[s:w:icehockey]] to appear in the middle of the page? I've tried some methods that have worked for other parts of the page, but not for the RSS News Feed. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 20:33, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Is that what you wanted? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Perfect. Thanks. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:11, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I think there is a big issue with the BASEPAGENAME and The SUBPAGENAME magic words in ShoutWiki in general. For an example, you see [http://eureka.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Str_left/doc this page] as normaly his BASEPAGENAME equals to "'''Str left'''" but not here. It equals "'''Str left/doc'''". That makes a big issue for transcluded pages and with templates which has to find the BASEPAGENAME. That was a problem I noticed month ago with [[s:w:fr.stargate|Stargate Wiki]]. Do you have an answer for this?<br/>Thanks. Regards. --[[Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] 26 février 2011 à 10:30 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied on [[s:w:fr:Discussion utilisateur:Jack Phoenix#SUBPAGENAME and BASEPAGENAME issue.]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:56, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I think you are not permit a template page to have a SUBPAGE. In other page ,such as [[User_talk:Summerking/SUBPAGE]], <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki> work well. And it will diaplay a tagline "'''< User talk:Summerking'''" to let visitor go back to the 'parent' page. But in template page, it's not. Just like what [[s:w:fr:Utilisateur:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] say. So I have to use '''<nowiki>{{#titleparts: {{BASEPAGENAME}} | 1}}</nowiki>'''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 21:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Good catch, Summerking! I've enabled subpages in the template namespace (added NS_TEMPLATE => true to [[mw:Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages|$wgNamespacesWithSubpages]]; now the only namespaces where subpages are '''not''' enabled are File, MediaWiki and Category), so maybe it works now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::I consider '''main namespace''' should '''NOT''' have sub-pages, or the article like ''<nowiki>[[GNU/Linux_naming_controversy]]</nowiki>'' will be treated as the sub-page of ''<nowiki>[[GNU]]</nowiki>''. See also [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Subpages|Wikipedia:Subpages]], and it suggest a temp pages([[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:workpages|workpages]]) should be the sub-page of talk namespace, e.g. ''<nowiki>[[Talk:Example Article/Temp]]</nowiki>''. --[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 11:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I consider page names like ''GNU/Linux naming controversy'' as [[wikipedia:Edge case|edge cases]]; it's possible that such problems occur, but relatively rare. If I were to turn off subpages in the main namespace, I'd assume that soon either my talk page or Bugzilla or both would be filled with requests to re-enable subpages in the main namespace. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hi Jack,<br/>is it possible to enable sub-pages on my different wikies in the added NAMESPACES (Episode, etc.). Thanks. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Hi Jack,<br/>I think you will have to do once again the activation of all my wikis added NAMESPACES subpages due to server crashdown. Sorry. Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 21:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Subpages should be enabled for the custom namespaces which count towards the article count (see [[mw:Manual:$wgContentNamespaces|MediaWiki.org]] for the technical details) in [[s:w:fr.24]], [[s:w:fr.stargate]], [[s:w:eureka]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka]]. Let me know if I've missed a namespace and I'll fix it! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Autopedia? ==<br />
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Where the fuck is Autopedia? Everyone's out there smiling and happy editing, except for Autopedia. We've lost over 5 weeks of car updates. Autopedia is one ShoutWiki's biggest and important wiki. I hope Autopedia is back up because I am just about to explode. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
*The techs are looking into those issues, I will ask for an update. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 21:39, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
**Also, using the word ''fuck'' will not make things any faster, I know this from experience since I have used that word towards Wikia a many times and it never made anything faster or better. Just saying. '''[[User:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">Madclaw</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Madclaw|<span style="color: #ff8c00;">''Talk''</span>]]</sup> 21:41, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Silver's just frustrated with the situation, I am too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:37, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:I can understand your frustration, and believe me, I was frustrated, too! The downtime was a lot longer than we even dared to imagine, but it's better to be safe than sorry.<br />
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:As for Autopedia, [[User:Misza|Misza]] is the tech working on that &mdash; please ask him for the current status of the project. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:::Oh Misza? How about he doesn't respond to any question. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:22, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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He hasnt responded in the past. Give him a day or two. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 05:53, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Premium skins ==<br />
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I really like the nimbus skin. When will it and the other premium skins become available? Thx [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:24, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Oops, almost forgot. What is the extension you wrote that was only available in 1.16? I'm really curious about it! [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 06:25, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:We hope that we'll be able to finalize the details on premium features during this summer.<br />
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:As for that extension I wrote, it'll need a bit of reviewing and given that it passes the review, it'll be installed here for testing and assuming that no outstanding issues will be found, it'll be then available for other wikis, too. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Where can I view these skins? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:19, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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[[s:w:premium]] look in your preferences there.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 17:32, 3 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem in regards to creating a wiki. ==<br />
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Every time I try to create a wiki, it presents me with an error message, I go back and try to change things, but it still presents me with the same message. Although that is not entirely true, there have been two different messages I have encountered. It says that it's a syntax error? I can't understand the problem, and would greatly appreciate it if you would help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? Thank you, --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 00:51, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Hi Legion, you're not doing anything wrong. There's a bug in our wiki creation tool and [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] from our [[Technical staff|tech team]] is fixing it as we speak. Once he's done fixing, the tool should work properly again. You may want to stop by [[Help:IRC|our IRC channel, #ShoutWiki on irc.shoutwiki.com]] &mdash; many staff members, Skizzerz and myself included, are there. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:17, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Alright I will, thanks. --[[User:Legion|Legion]] ([[User talk:Legion|talk]]) 01:35, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Problem with a wiki creation ==<br />
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Hi, I dont know where to turn, so I write here. I am founder of Historica Wiki, then I tried to create Empire beyond the Stars Wiki, but I failed. My first attempt failed with some (I dont remember which) error message, then I tried three more times with this error message:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br/>CREATE DATABASE ebts_wiki<br/>from within function "". Database returned error "1007: Can't create database 'ebts_wiki'; database exists (localhost)".<br />
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So I assumed, that first creation failed, but shoutwiki still thinks, that it is created (when I tried to use url www.ebts.shoutwiki.com, it results in No such wiki page) and it wont allow to recreate it. Now, if I try create new wiki, it just says that ''You have already created 5 wikis. You cannot create any more.'', which isnt clearly true, because I created one functional and one functionless and made another three attempts to recreated it. What now? --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:28, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Eh, I just read post above... Sorry for my post. --[[User:Silesianus|Silesianus]] ([[User talk:Silesianus|talk]]) 11:34, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Yep, it's a known bug, our techs are working on it. I'll poke you when it's been fixed! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
::Can you message me too Jack, cheers.--[[User:Cook879|Cook879]] ([[User talk:Cook879|talk]]) 00:42, 5 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Close ==<br />
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Hi. Please close: [[s:w:nba|NBA Wiki]], [[s:w:collegebasketball|Colelge Basketball]], [[s:w:nfl|NFL Wiki]], and [[s:w:collegefootball|College football wiki]]. Please note, I am not upset with shoutwiki or anything. These sites are dupliactes of two other sites I made, thus they are not needed. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:48, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:27, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
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I would be interested in adopting [http://football.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page football wiki]. What are the requirements for adopting? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:36, 4 May 2011 (MSD)<br />
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Delete: Stargate Wiiki, Archaeology Wiki, Smallville Wiki, Dark Angel Wiki, Veronica Mars Wiki and Arrested Development Wiki. [[User:Escyos|Escyos]] ([[User talk:Escyos|talk]]) 04:04, 5 May 2011 (MSD)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Solar_Dragon&diff=5362User talk:Solar Dragon2011-03-01T03:17:57Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Blocked ==<br />
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These blocks were actually on a wiki hosted by Internet Brands, not Wikia. 2 users were blocked on Internet Brands Wikicars. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:48, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It appears sannse removed your comment for 'trolling' [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikia ==<br />
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Hello,<br />
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I am from the meme wiki, hosted on shoutwiki...We moved to wikia well because it has pre-made templates....and you don't have to cod them yourself.<br />
Yes, the wikia design is shit, and i have realised that, I am considering moving back to shoutwiki.<br />
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-Admin of memes.<br />
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== Vector skin ==<br />
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When will the Vector skin, which is Wikipedia's current skin, be released? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 11:11, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
: After upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16, so probably in this month. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 11:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I am not staff by the way so I won' know these things. :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 11:15, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::: So am I? :P You can ask. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 11:16, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== BOT ==<br />
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Hello, could you please create a bot for [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? It is your decision if you want to or not. thanks. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 09:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks, I already read the instructions, but I can't seem to get my Autowikibrowser to log in. Maybe you could please make a bot for Autopedia? :) --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 08:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I've logged in with my Knightrez account, but I still don't know how to activate it or to get it to work. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== [[s:w:Classicapædia|Classicapædia]] ==<br />
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Hi Solar Dragon,<br/>I would like to ask you the reason you changed the name of the [[Classicapædia]] page to Classic Fiction because this French wiki (even if there are only 2 articles) is based on ancient French encyclopedia which are now on public domain? Can you explain where is the relation with Classic fiction? Thank you for your answer. Best Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 18:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:ah, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought that that was the name of the wiki and we go for the topic over the wiki name. I will move it back then. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 18:12, 1 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you for the reversal. ;-) --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 18:17, 1 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Autopedia is on Facebook ==<br />
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Autopedia/132392653493492?v=page_getting_started --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 15:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Can you help with my bot. ==<br />
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I'm making a bot. I've downloaded AutoWikiBrowser5200 and made the [[User:I Doh Bot|account]]. What do you do next? [[User:Doh5678|Doh5678]] ([[User talk:Doh5678|talk]]) 13:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Made the bot. Tried to remove a category from a page. Did what you had to do, didn't work. How do you start working it. [[User:Doh5678|Doh5678]] ([[User talk:Doh5678|talk]]) 16:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::No need. [[User:Doh5678|Doh5678]] ([[User talk:Doh5678|talk]]) 17:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Its admin, created a second account to make more wikis.<br />
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maybe you should be drunk because drunk is thr kind of drunkall wikieditso wnats to eb {{User:Escyos/sig}} 10:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
I do not remember writing that.... {{User:Escyos/sig}} 03:17, 1 March 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_5&diff=5306User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 52011-02-26T09:48:54Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Special:Import not working ==<br />
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I tried to upload a 578 KB unzipped db dump. But I got a message that the 'import size is bigger than maximum allowed'. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 19:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You need to ask staff to make large imports. Make a report at Bugzilla. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I know. But 578 KB is far under the 2.1 MB manual import limit. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== shoutwiki ==<br />
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http://zh.shoutwiki.com REDIRECT to http://zh-tw.shoutwiki.com --[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 06:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
Despite my already busy wiki schedule, I have been helping out on some other wikis to get them looking pretty and looking clean, so as to attract people to begin editing and have a fun time (to be honest its partly because I want wikia to die painfully), anyway I am currently doing up the Charmed Wiki and its a little hard to do without admin abilities. I talked to the guy who made it but received no reply and that was 19 days ago, i tracked him down on wikia and asked but still no reply. I understand if you feel one person having too much power around here could be a bad thing, but you are more than welcome to remove said powers after I am done. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 09:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Escyos, <br> KhanWiz seems to be active again, have you still not received a reply? --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 00:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::hardly, he just uploaded a pic. I noticed he is still active on the wikia one yet doesnt seem so interested in the shoutwiki one. technically i got a reply, which was just about the logo and nothing else. I sincerely doubt he has any interest in this wiki however if the wikia one is any indication of their style of writing, thats a good thing. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:*As you have probably noticed, I have contacted him and he replied and granted you admin rights. Happy editing. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 12:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Vector, Monaco, ads and longterm financial stability ==<br />
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At Wikia there is this forum: [http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:You_guys_suck&action=view Forum: You guys suck]<br />
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Some thoughts I have adapted from that thread. <br />
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I prefer the Vector skin. Maybe Wikia will allow wikis to make it the default skin. Shoutwiki will allow it as the default skin when they upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16. Competition is good. <br />
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In any case, wiki farms have to figure out how to make money. Paying for Monaco and other "premium" skins will not work in my opinion. It almost always comes back to ad revenue, and where to put the ads. Otherwise wiki farms don't survive profitably. Left sidebars at 300 pixels wide would work, along with header ads, and bottom of the page ads. But then the content space is squeezed if a fixed-width is used that is too narrow (as at Wikia). <br />
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A wider left sidebar is fine if content space has a fluid width up to a certain maximum width. This way the content space expands or shrinks to work with smartphones, laptops, PC monitors, and wider screens. But that maximum width has to be wider than the current fixed width at Wikia. The ratio of content space width to sidebar width will more and more be the determining factor in popularity of wiki farms in my opinion. <br />
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A possible solution for any wiki farm is to put the ads (marked clearly as "ads") in content space, and to use a narrow sidebar, or no sidebar. Monaco has a narrow left sidebar, and Wikia used Monaco to put ads in content space. In spite of those ads people could live with it because logged-in users could turn the ads off in preferences. Ads are fine in content space as long as they are marked in the top or bottom caption as "ads". <br />
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There is a near-religious war between people who think they can survive with narrow sidebar text ads (which is not financially possible in the long run), and people who think they can squeeze content space way too much (Wikia lately) in order to plaster the rest of the space with ads, "spotlights", fluff, bling, you-name-it. And right sidebars make it even worse. They block large images and tables. <br />
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Vector has a narrow left sidebar and a fluid, flexible width. It is good in my opinion to always use the latest MediaWiki skin since they have been fairly well tested. There is also an extension for nested sidebar site navigation that works with Vector: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS_MenuSidebar Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]. For more info, and to see it in use go here: [http://ac.wikkii.net/w/index.php?title=Forum:Sidebar_Menus_working_now Forum:Sidebar Menus working now]. There is also a way to add a nested menu sidebar without an extension just by adding some CSS and JS. ''[http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page Halopedia]'' has one that could be adapted to the Vector skin. <br />
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Vector, like any skin, is infinitely customizable via CSS and JS. It can have one or two sidebars of any width. It can have content space of any width, fixed width, flexible width, or any combination. It can have any color text, and any number of background colors and images. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 08:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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*Hello there, thank you for your thoughts. <br>Competition is indeed good, as it forces people to be more and more creative and find new ways to do things. Money is an issue that is always relevant. However, we at ShoutWiki believe in the concept of premium features. It's strange that you can say that it will not work when in fact no-one has seen premium features in action, as we have not yet released them. It is our strong belief that ads are not the only way to make a wiki farm profitable.<br><br>We also believe that users prefer control over their wiki instead of obtrusive ads &mdash; even if the control costs a few dollars. On ShoutWiki, only anonymous and very new users will see advertisements. Autoconfirmed users (the majority of registered users) will not see ads, although they can force ads to display by adding <tt>forceads=true</tt> to the URL query string.<br><br> In addition to this, ads are normally displayed only on content pages in order to comply with the ad providers' terms of use. As Jack wrote to another user [[User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 3#Some extensions|a while ago]], there is no need to install an extension to create folding sidebars, similar to what the Monaco skin has. It is entirely possible to achieve this effect with some JavaScript and CSS.<br><br> While we realize that people like Vector, we won't be forcing it down the users' throats, in a manner that Wikimedia sites did. When Vector was deployed on Wikimedia projects, such as the English Wikipedia, it was not only made the site default skin, but also the default skin for all users, which many found annoying. Simply put, we believe in choices &mdash; in ''freedom''. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I hope you are right about the premium features bringing in enough money to justify the staff time to maintain them. Wordpress.com makes a substantial amount of money from their Custom CSS Upgrade. See: http://en.support.wordpress.com/custom-css <br />
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::This allows them to minimize the ads they show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress.com <br />
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::But there are millions of blogs on Wordpress.com and so there is a large pool of people willing to pay for premium features. There are not nearly as many admins on wikis. I assume admins are the ones most likely to pay for premium features on wikis. <br />
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::Freedom is good of course. I assume you will let people use Monobook or Vector for free. Maybe some other skins too that come with MediaWiki. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 20:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Please import ==<br />
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[http://nba.wikia.com/wiki/NBA_Wiki NBA Wikia] to [http://nba.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NBA ShoutWiki], [http://nfl.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wikia] to [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL ShoutWiki], and [http://college-basketball.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball Wikia] to [http://collegebasketball.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball ShoutWiki] Thanks! --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 15:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You should file bug reports under Imports on Bugzilla for these. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Solar Dragon. I forgot about Bugzilla. I've filed the bugs. --Hockeyben<br />
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Please note that these wikis are not very active, so the DB Dump does not need to be updated, the early February updated will work fine --Hockeyben<br />
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== Slate ==<br />
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Please change the Monaco theme on [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wiki] to Slate. Thanks --Hockeyben<br />
*I informed the techs about your request, they should change it for you soon. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 15:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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**This has now been done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Permissions ==<br />
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Please give me [[Special:ListGroupRights|sharedhelp]] permission.--[[User:Z135793|Z135793]] ([[User talk:Z135793|talk]]) 08:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hi there, <br>Before we grant the rights of help page editors, we usually want to see what type of help pages you would write and what their quality would be. To do this, you can write a few help page you would like to add to our help pages on a user subpage. Once those pages are done, we will review them and then move them to the help namespace. Once we see you are writing good help pages, we will grant you the rights. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 17:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Support Center for the [[s:w:eureka|English]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka|French]] Eureka Wikies and a very old request. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I still have no answer for 3 requests, [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=942117 this one], [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=905753 this one] and [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=822650 that very old one]. Do you have any answer please? Thank you very much for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 17:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Limafox, Jack, I replied to this on my talk page after receiving the same question. Sorry it took so long to get back to Limafox. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 15:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Create a wiki ==<br />
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Is there a way to create a wiki without giving away my e-mail address? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 06:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No, but if you don't trust shoutwiki, what you can do is make another email address. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 06:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:*Part of the reason why we ask for users to have a valid email address when making a wiki is because spambots usually do not have valid email addresses, it prevents spam wikis from being created. It also ensures that we always have a way of contacting a wikis founder should there ever be a need to contact him or her. And per Escyos, there are many places where you can make an email address for free if you do not want to use your private email for ShoutWiki. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 13:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Splitting up CSS ==<br />
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Hi Jack. I am wondering if you know of a way to split CSS into separate files, rather than have it all in Common.css.<br /><br />
I have made a template that requires quite a bit of CSS that is not used elsewhere. It would be nice to be able to put that CSS in a separate file, and then use <pre>@import url('path/to/Template.css')</pre> (or similar) to get it into Common.css. Is this possible?<br /><br />
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btw, you might find [http://pathofexile.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:DSectionStart the template] interesting, although it is purely decorative. - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 05:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Please be aware that splitting up common CSS/JS into multiple pages means that more HTTP requests = slower pageloads. It can also make some JS scripts fail. That being said, it's possible to split up CSS into multiple pages. Use <code>@import "/w/index.php?action=raw&ctype=text/css&title=MediaWiki:Your_custom.css";</code> in your MediaWiki:Common.css to import the contents of <code>MediaWiki:Your_custom.css</code> into it.<br />
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:In JavaScript, you can use <code>importStylesheet</code> function to import a page as CSS; for example, <code>importStylesheet( 'MediaWiki:Your_custom.css' );</code><br />
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:--[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Great, thanks! - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 20:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== "What links here" problem ==<br />
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[[File:What links here problem.png|thumb|300px|An example of the random page it returns - this being "WhatLinksHere"]]<br />
Hi Jack, I'm having a problem with the "What links here" on the Monaco skin on Wikisimpsons. The link, in the sidebar, produces a "what links here" for a random page. If you reload the cache (CTRL + F5) it produces another random page, being "Abraham Simpson" for the example. It's fairly annoying and difficult to work with, although it seems to work fine in the Monobook skin. Thanks, Jordan ([[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 10:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC))<br />
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:Now that's an odd problem! It seems that the problem occurs only in some pages; I tested the Homer Simpson page and it was totally OK, while the template page in the picture was not. I [http://simpsons.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AMonaco-toolbox&diff=191776&oldid=190893 tweaked] the MediaWiki:Monaco-toolbox message on Wikisimpsons; let's hope that that fixes the problem. We should be seeing the changes in about 4 hours, as the MediaWiki messages are cached if and when your language is the same as the wiki's content language. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It seems to be working fine now. --[[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 17:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks Jack. I asked a couple of times on IRC but was ignored and gave up eventually. Didn't cross my mind to ask on your talk page :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Monaco ==<br />
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Can change the default skin of the Dutch HP wiki tom Monaco.{{SUBST:Gebruiker:Samben/signature}} 22:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hosting ==<br />
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Will/Is Shoutwiki going to be hosting wikis with their own address (e.g stargate-wiki.org :D )? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, it's certainly something that we're planning to offer, either as a premium feature or as a normal one (I'm thinking that premium might be a bit easier on the techs, I'm not sure how easy/difficult setting up such a thing is). You might want to ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] about his plans regarding custom domains, as those aren't exactly my domain (no pun intended!). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Delete http://monaco.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Monaco_Wiki ==<br />
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Hello!<br />
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Please delete http://monaco.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Monaco_Wiki - we have moved to another host.<br><br />
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[[User:AWAMember|AWAMember]] ([[User_talk:AWAMember|Talk page]], [[Special:EmailUser/AWAMember|Mail me]]). 17:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:It's very sad to see a wiki go, especially for the Monaco wiki as you don't even seem to have the Monaco skin on your new wiki...in any case, I've deleted the wiki as per your request. Best of luck with the wiki on the new address! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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*in [http://zh-tw.website.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 網站百科全書]<br />
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*require_once("$IP/extensions/ChangeAuthor/ChangeAuthor.setup.php"); $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['changeauthor'] = true;<br />
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*request add Permissions 隱藏員 ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RevisionDelete Manual:RevisionDelete])。<br />
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*$wgAddGroups['bureaucrat'] = array('隱藏員','巡查員','巡查豁免者','跨维基导入者');<br />
*$wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'] = array('隱藏員','巡查員','巡查豁免者','跨维基导入者');<br />
*$wgAddGroups['sysop'] = array('巡查員','巡查豁免者');<br />
*$wgRemoveGroups['sysop'] = array('巡查員','巡查豁免者');<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['跨维基导入者']['import'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['deleterevision'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['hideuser'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['suppressrevision'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['suppressionlog'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['hiderevision'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['abusefilter-hide-log'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['oversight'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['abusefilter-hidden-log'] = true;<br />
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*request add Permissions 巡查豁免者(autopatrol)、巡查員(patroller)。<br />
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*$wgGroupPermissions['巡查豁免者']['autopatrol'] =true;<br />
*$wgGroupPermissions['巡查員']['patrol'] =true;<br />
*$wgGroupPermissions['巡查員']['autopatrol'] =true;<br />
*$wgAddGroups['巡查員'] = array('巡查員','巡查豁免者');<br />
*$wgRemoveGroups['巡查員'] = array('巡查豁免者');<br />
--[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 14:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I've added the first $wgAddGroups and $wgRemoveGroups definitions (without overwriting the defaults), with some changes and the autopatrol and patrol groups. Most of the permissions which you requested for one of the new groups, such as revisiondelete and such, are staff-only for the time being. They may, in extraordinary circumstances, be given out to some trusted users. Of course we'll naturally hope that there will be no need for revisiondelete etc. but if there is, [[ShoutWiki staff]] are here and willing to help you.<br />
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:I'd also suggest using English names in configuration settings; it's the easiest for everybody. The English group names can be customized/translated by editing the appropriate system messages (i.e. [[s:w:zh-tw.website:MediaWiki:Group-autopatrol]], [[s:w:zh-tw.website:MediaWiki:Group-autopatrol-member]], [[s:w:zh-tw.website:MediaWiki:Grouppage-autopatrol]] and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sockpuppeting ==<br />
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What do you guys class as sockpuppeting? Would someone creating another account to get past the 5 wiki thing be a violation of this? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
: Vide [[ShoutWiki Hub:Wiki deletion policy|Wiki deletion policy]] that means deleting all your wikis. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 05:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Yea thats what i thought, and i noticed you let admin2 know this. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 05:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Inaccessible pages ==<br />
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Hi Jack<br />
You recently installed the DPL forum extension for me on pathofexile.shoutwiki.com, thanks for that. There is a problem though - there are some pages that were created using Special:Import which were in the forum namespace. It seems when they got imported, they went into the Main namespace as Forum:xxxx, and now that a Forum namespace has been created, they are no longer accessible. I would be grateful if you could move all twelve [http://pathofexile.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&from=Forum&namespace=0 Forum:xxxx] pages into the forum namespace, or failing that, delete them.<br />
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Also, there is a user called Tpapp157 who is trying to register at shoutwiki. He had contributions on the imported pages. He tells me that he when he tries to register it tells him that his name is in use. To quote him directly: "It says something about transferring my account but I can't figure out how to do this. Am I missing something? Do I just need to make a new account? I tried but apparently my username is in use."<br />
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I can't find a user with that name in the user list of pathofexile.shoutwiki or the shoutwiki hub. Any idea what is going on there?<br />
[[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 05:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The forum pages should now be accessible. I ran a maintenance script (namespaceDupes.php) to fix the issue, it reported that everything "Looks good!" so I assume that the issue has been resolved.<br />
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:As for the user registration issue, the underlying issue is a bit more complicated, but I'll try to explain it anyway.<br />
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:'''Short version''': I've enabled the [[mw:Extension:MediaWikiAuth|MediaWikiAuth extension]] on the Path of Exile wiki and the user should now be able to register.<br />
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:'''Longer version''': the MediaWikiAuth extension requires patching a core file of the MediaWiki software, namely the login/signup page (includes/SpecialUserlogin.php). MediaWikiAuth adds some of its own checks there. It checks if the [[mw:Manual:Revision table|revision table]] in the database has some entries where rev_user_text = name of the user who is trying to sign up. If it finds any entries (as it now did), it prevents registration &mdash; to prevent imposters, as the user name is reserved for the "original user".<br />
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:Of course this is only useful for imported wikis, for which we manually enable MediaWikiAuth on a case-by-case basis, normally after importing the wiki's content and files. MediaWikiAuth is not enabled by default for all new wikis, as it would be pointless and most likely even counterproductive &mdash; after all, we can safely assume that most wikis created via [[Special:CreateWiki]] are entirely new wikis, not imports from other sites.<br />
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:The issue here is that even though MediaWikiAuth is not always active, the core patches will always be there. In most cases, those small bits of code will not cause any issues. Sometimes there are what could be called "edge-cases", such as your case here, and they will cause problems. It should be noted that the user was unable to register on the Path of Exile wiki before MediaWikiAuth was actived, but s/he could have gone to [[List of wikis|any other ShoutWiki-hosted wiki]] (such as this one, for example :-) to "cheat" MediaWikiAuth, because ShoutWiki accounts are global (shared between other ShoutWiki sites). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 16:07, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:: Thankyou very much for the long version, and of course the solution (both issues are fixed now). If I understand correctly he will still not be able to create a new account with that name, but when he tries to log in the old account will automatically be imported remotely into the shoutwiki. Very interesting. Thanks again. - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 18:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Yep, the user will not be able to create a new account but rather log in with their old account. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 21:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
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[http://auto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Isuzu_i-Series Same problem here]. :( --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 12:27, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:The problem is unclosed div tags. I fixed this by placing an extra <nowiki></div></nowiki> at the bottom of the page. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 12:49, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for helping :-) --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 12:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::[http://auto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Saturn_ION Another problem even] when I added div tags. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::There are two unclosed <nowiki><div></nowiki> tags in the colors section. - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 14:40, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::[[s:w:auto:Honda CR-V|Honda CR-V now]]. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 09:27, 24 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::::Fixed. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:31, 24 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::And the [[s:w:auto:Saturn ION|Saturn ION]]. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:34, 24 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The easiest way to find the unclosed tags is to CTRL + F "<nowiki><div</nowiki>", then look to see if there is a closing tag, if not, add one. --[[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 11:52, 24 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::These, like the problems we had on Wikisimpsons with unclosed div tags, are usually a result of templates so that won't do anything. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 11:57, 24 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Thanks... --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 12:53, 24 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== What if the Stewards (wiki creator) have the permission of editing Special:Interwiki? ==<br />
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First, I thought a wiki creator will have the permission of editing [[Special:Interwiki]], but after viewing some wikis (such as:[http://zh-tw.shoutwiki.com zh-tw.shoutwiki.com]), I find most of the Interwiki-table setting was edited by you and I haven't the permission to edit the "Special:Interwiki" page of the wiki I creat. <br />
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So, I wonder if what will happen when the wiki creator have this permission. Will it lead to a spam site or a phishing site?<br />
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Well, maybe it is a useless in most of wiki, so I just wonder why there is a limit on that. I am a beginer, and edit my wiki at random to be familiar with wiki language and wikimedia system. If you tell me you can help add Interwiki-table, I am sorry but I think I don't need that. I am just out of curiosity.<br />
--[[User:Summerking|Summerking]] ([[User talk:Summerking|talk]]) 20:38, 25 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Interwikis (as shown on [[Special:Interwiki]]) are shared between '''all''' ShoutWiki sites, which is why stewards will not be able to edit them. You can request a new interwiki link to be added by leaving me or another staff member a message and we will consider adding it; these requests are handled on a case-by-case basis.<br />
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:Because interwiki links and inter''language'' links are stored on the same table, it means that we currently can't allow local stewards to modify interlanguage links either, which is unfortunate. If you need interlanguage links added between two wikis (for example, [[s:w:fi.24]] and [[s:w:fr.24]]), please contact us (see [[Customer Support Team#Contact us]] for more info). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 21:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== 面板 ==<br />
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希望您可以將[[教育wiki]]的Skin Monaco 更改 Skin Vector。--[[User:王大偉|王大偉]] ([[User talk:王大偉|talk]]) 08:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Help page editors(sharedhelp) ==<br />
request add Permissions [http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights sharedhelp] in [http://zh-tw.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 shoutwiki(zh)].--[[User:Z135793|Z135793]] ([[User talk:Z135793|talk]]) 08:27, 26 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki Deletion ==<br />
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Can you delete the [[s:w:universe|Create a universe Wiki]] started out as a good idea but i would just be plagerising my own work from another one of my wikis there. thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 09:48, 26 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Solar_Dragon&diff=5215User talk:Solar Dragon2011-02-23T10:30:43Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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===Welcome, Solar Dragon, to ShoutWiki Hub!===<br />
ShoutWiki is a '''free''', ad-supported [[wikipedia:wiki|wiki]] hosting service. We offer wiki hosting to individuals, companies, school, universities and communities.<br />
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Our [[ShoutWiki Staff|staff]] are very experienced with the MediaWiki software and can help you with any and all problems and questions you may encounter.<br />
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Here are some useful links for you: <br />
*Our [[privacy policy]]<br />
*Our [[terms of use]]<br />
*Our [[ShoutWiki features|features]]<br />
*[[Help:Creating a new wiki|Help on creating a new wiki]]<br />
*[[ShoutWiki|Read more about ShoutWiki]]<br />
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Please sign your comments on talk pages using four tildes, like this: <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. <br />
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If you have any questions, you can always contact [[ShoutWiki Staff]] or visit our [[ShoutWiki Hub:IRC|IRC channel]], or ask me on [[User talk:Jedimca0|my talk page]]. &mdash;[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|Do or Do Not, There is No Try]])</sup> 09:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Blocked ==<br />
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These blocks were actually on a wiki hosted by Internet Brands, not Wikia. 2 users were blocked on Internet Brands Wikicars. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:48, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It appears sannse removed your comment for 'trolling' [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikia ==<br />
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Hello,<br />
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I am from the meme wiki, hosted on shoutwiki...We moved to wikia well because it has pre-made templates....and you don't have to cod them yourself.<br />
Yes, the wikia design is shit, and i have realised that, I am considering moving back to shoutwiki.<br />
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-Admin of memes.<br />
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== Vector skin ==<br />
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When will the Vector skin, which is Wikipedia's current skin, be released? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 11:11, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
: After upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16, so probably in this month. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 11:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I am not staff by the way so I won' know these things. :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 11:15, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::: So am I? :P You can ask. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 11:16, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== BOT ==<br />
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Hello, could you please create a bot for [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? It is your decision if you want to or not. thanks. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 09:40, 31 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks, I already read the instructions, but I can't seem to get my Autowikibrowser to log in. Maybe you could please make a bot for Autopedia? :) --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 08:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I've logged in with my Knightrez account, but I still don't know how to activate it or to get it to work. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:15, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== [[s:w:Classicapædia|Classicapædia]] ==<br />
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Hi Solar Dragon,<br/>I would like to ask you the reason you changed the name of the [[Classicapædia]] page to Classic Fiction because this French wiki (even if there are only 2 articles) is based on ancient French encyclopedia which are now on public domain? Can you explain where is the relation with Classic fiction? Thank you for your answer. Best Regards. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 18:10, 1 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:ah, sorry, I misunderstood. I thought that that was the name of the wiki and we go for the topic over the wiki name. I will move it back then. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 18:12, 1 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you for the reversal. ;-) --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 18:17, 1 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Autopedia is on Facebook ==<br />
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Autopedia/132392653493492?v=page_getting_started --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 15:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Can you help with my bot. ==<br />
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I'm making a bot. I've downloaded AutoWikiBrowser5200 and made the [[User:I Doh Bot|account]]. What do you do next? [[User:Doh5678|Doh5678]] ([[User talk:Doh5678|talk]]) 13:37, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Made the bot. Tried to remove a category from a page. Did what you had to do, didn't work. How do you start working it. [[User:Doh5678|Doh5678]] ([[User talk:Doh5678|talk]]) 16:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::No need. [[User:Doh5678|Doh5678]] ([[User talk:Doh5678|talk]]) 17:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Its admin, created a second account to make more wikis.<br />
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maybe you should be drunk because drunk is thr kind of drunkall wikieditso wnats to eb {{User:Escyos/sig}} 10:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_5&diff=5211User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 52011-02-23T05:09:11Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Special:Import not working ==<br />
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I tried to upload a 578 KB unzipped db dump. But I got a message that the 'import size is bigger than maximum allowed'. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 19:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You need to ask staff to make large imports. Make a report at Bugzilla. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I know. But 578 KB is far under the 2.1 MB manual import limit. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== shoutwiki ==<br />
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http://zh.shoutwiki.com REDIRECT to http://zh-tw.shoutwiki.com --[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 06:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
Despite my already busy wiki schedule, I have been helping out on some other wikis to get them looking pretty and looking clean, so as to attract people to begin editing and have a fun time (to be honest its partly because I want wikia to die painfully), anyway I am currently doing up the Charmed Wiki and its a little hard to do without admin abilities. I talked to the guy who made it but received no reply and that was 19 days ago, i tracked him down on wikia and asked but still no reply. I understand if you feel one person having too much power around here could be a bad thing, but you are more than welcome to remove said powers after I am done. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 09:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Escyos, <br> KhanWiz seems to be active again, have you still not received a reply? --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 00:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::hardly, he just uploaded a pic. I noticed he is still active on the wikia one yet doesnt seem so interested in the shoutwiki one. technically i got a reply, which was just about the logo and nothing else. I sincerely doubt he has any interest in this wiki however if the wikia one is any indication of their style of writing, thats a good thing. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:*As you have probably noticed, I have contacted him and he replied and granted you admin rights. Happy editing. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 12:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Vector, Monaco, ads and longterm financial stability ==<br />
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At Wikia there is this forum: [http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:You_guys_suck&action=view Forum: You guys suck]<br />
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Some thoughts I have adapted from that thread. <br />
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I prefer the Vector skin. Maybe Wikia will allow wikis to make it the default skin. Shoutwiki will allow it as the default skin when they upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16. Competition is good. <br />
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In any case, wiki farms have to figure out how to make money. Paying for Monaco and other "premium" skins will not work in my opinion. It almost always comes back to ad revenue, and where to put the ads. Otherwise wiki farms don't survive profitably. Left sidebars at 300 pixels wide would work, along with header ads, and bottom of the page ads. But then the content space is squeezed if a fixed-width is used that is too narrow (as at Wikia). <br />
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A wider left sidebar is fine if content space has a fluid width up to a certain maximum width. This way the content space expands or shrinks to work with smartphones, laptops, PC monitors, and wider screens. But that maximum width has to be wider than the current fixed width at Wikia. The ratio of content space width to sidebar width will more and more be the determining factor in popularity of wiki farms in my opinion. <br />
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A possible solution for any wiki farm is to put the ads (marked clearly as "ads") in content space, and to use a narrow sidebar, or no sidebar. Monaco has a narrow left sidebar, and Wikia used Monaco to put ads in content space. In spite of those ads people could live with it because logged-in users could turn the ads off in preferences. Ads are fine in content space as long as they are marked in the top or bottom caption as "ads". <br />
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There is a near-religious war between people who think they can survive with narrow sidebar text ads (which is not financially possible in the long run), and people who think they can squeeze content space way too much (Wikia lately) in order to plaster the rest of the space with ads, "spotlights", fluff, bling, you-name-it. And right sidebars make it even worse. They block large images and tables. <br />
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Vector has a narrow left sidebar and a fluid, flexible width. It is good in my opinion to always use the latest MediaWiki skin since they have been fairly well tested. There is also an extension for nested sidebar site navigation that works with Vector: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS_MenuSidebar Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]. For more info, and to see it in use go here: [http://ac.wikkii.net/w/index.php?title=Forum:Sidebar_Menus_working_now Forum:Sidebar Menus working now]. There is also a way to add a nested menu sidebar without an extension just by adding some CSS and JS. ''[http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page Halopedia]'' has one that could be adapted to the Vector skin. <br />
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Vector, like any skin, is infinitely customizable via CSS and JS. It can have one or two sidebars of any width. It can have content space of any width, fixed width, flexible width, or any combination. It can have any color text, and any number of background colors and images. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 08:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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*Hello there, thank you for your thoughts. <br>Competition is indeed good, as it forces people to be more and more creative and find new ways to do things. Money is an issue that is always relevant. However, we at ShoutWiki believe in the concept of premium features. It's strange that you can say that it will not work when in fact no-one has seen premium features in action, as we have not yet released them. It is our strong belief that ads are not the only way to make a wiki farm profitable.<br><br>We also believe that users prefer control over their wiki instead of obtrusive ads &mdash; even if the control costs a few dollars. On ShoutWiki, only anonymous and very new users will see advertisements. Autoconfirmed users (the majority of registered users) will not see ads, although they can force ads to display by adding <tt>forceads=true</tt> to the URL query string.<br><br> In addition to this, ads are normally displayed only on content pages in order to comply with the ad providers' terms of use. As Jack wrote to another user [[User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 3#Some extensions|a while ago]], there is no need to install an extension to create folding sidebars, similar to what the Monaco skin has. It is entirely possible to achieve this effect with some JavaScript and CSS.<br><br> While we realize that people like Vector, we won't be forcing it down the users' throats, in a manner that Wikimedia sites did. When Vector was deployed on Wikimedia projects, such as the English Wikipedia, it was not only made the site default skin, but also the default skin for all users, which many found annoying. Simply put, we believe in choices &mdash; in ''freedom''. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I hope you are right about the premium features bringing in enough money to justify the staff time to maintain them. Wordpress.com makes a substantial amount of money from their Custom CSS Upgrade. See: http://en.support.wordpress.com/custom-css <br />
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::This allows them to minimize the ads they show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress.com <br />
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::But there are millions of blogs on Wordpress.com and so there is a large pool of people willing to pay for premium features. There are not nearly as many admins on wikis. I assume admins are the ones most likely to pay for premium features on wikis. <br />
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::Freedom is good of course. I assume you will let people use Monobook or Vector for free. Maybe some other skins too that come with MediaWiki. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 20:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Please import ==<br />
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[http://nba.wikia.com/wiki/NBA_Wiki NBA Wikia] to [http://nba.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NBA ShoutWiki], [http://nfl.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wikia] to [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL ShoutWiki], and [http://college-basketball.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball Wikia] to [http://collegebasketball.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball ShoutWiki] Thanks! --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 15:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You should file bug reports under Imports on Bugzilla for these. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Solar Dragon. I forgot about Bugzilla. I've filed the bugs. --Hockeyben<br />
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Please note that these wikis are not very active, so the DB Dump does not need to be updated, the early February updated will work fine --Hockeyben<br />
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== Slate ==<br />
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Please change the Monaco theme on [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wiki] to Slate. Thanks --Hockeyben<br />
*I informed the techs about your request, they should change it for you soon. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 15:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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**This has now been done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Permissions ==<br />
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Please give me [[Special:ListGroupRights|sharedhelp]] permission.--[[User:Z135793|Z135793]] ([[User talk:Z135793|talk]]) 08:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hi there, <br>Before we grant the rights of help page editors, we usually want to see what type of help pages you would write and what their quality would be. To do this, you can write a few help page you would like to add to our help pages on a user subpage. Once those pages are done, we will review them and then move them to the help namespace. Once we see you are writing good help pages, we will grant you the rights. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 17:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Support Center for the [[s:w:eureka|English]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka|French]] Eureka Wikies and a very old request. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I still have no answer for 3 requests, [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=942117 this one], [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=905753 this one] and [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=822650 that very old one]. Do you have any answer please? Thank you very much for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 17:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Limafox, Jack, I replied to this on my talk page after receiving the same question. Sorry it took so long to get back to Limafox. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 15:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Create a wiki ==<br />
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Is there a way to create a wiki without giving away my e-mail address? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 06:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No, but if you don't trust shoutwiki, what you can do is make another email address. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 06:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:*Part of the reason why we ask for users to have a valid email address when making a wiki is because spambots usually do not have valid email addresses, it prevents spam wikis from being created. It also ensures that we always have a way of contacting a wikis founder should there ever be a need to contact him or her. And per Escyos, there are many places where you can make an email address for free if you do not want to use your private email for ShoutWiki. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 13:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Splitting up CSS ==<br />
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Hi Jack. I am wondering if you know of a way to split CSS into separate files, rather than have it all in Common.css.<br /><br />
I have made a template that requires quite a bit of CSS that is not used elsewhere. It would be nice to be able to put that CSS in a separate file, and then use <pre>@import url('path/to/Template.css')</pre> (or similar) to get it into Common.css. Is this possible?<br /><br />
Thanks in advance<br />
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btw, you might find [http://pathofexile.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:DSectionStart the template] interesting, although it is purely decorative. - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 05:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Please be aware that splitting up common CSS/JS into multiple pages means that more HTTP requests = slower pageloads. It can also make some JS scripts fail. That being said, it's possible to split up CSS into multiple pages. Use <code>@import "/w/index.php?action=raw&ctype=text/css&title=MediaWiki:Your_custom.css";</code> in your MediaWiki:Common.css to import the contents of <code>MediaWiki:Your_custom.css</code> into it.<br />
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:In JavaScript, you can use <code>importStylesheet</code> function to import a page as CSS; for example, <code>importStylesheet( 'MediaWiki:Your_custom.css' );</code><br />
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:--[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Great, thanks! - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 20:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== "What links here" problem ==<br />
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[[File:What links here problem.png|thumb|300px|An example of the random page it returns - this being "WhatLinksHere"]]<br />
Hi Jack, I'm having a problem with the "What links here" on the Monaco skin on Wikisimpsons. The link, in the sidebar, produces a "what links here" for a random page. If you reload the cache (CTRL + F5) it produces another random page, being "Abraham Simpson" for the example. It's fairly annoying and difficult to work with, although it seems to work fine in the Monobook skin. Thanks, Jordan ([[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 10:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC))<br />
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:Now that's an odd problem! It seems that the problem occurs only in some pages; I tested the Homer Simpson page and it was totally OK, while the template page in the picture was not. I [http://simpsons.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AMonaco-toolbox&diff=191776&oldid=190893 tweaked] the MediaWiki:Monaco-toolbox message on Wikisimpsons; let's hope that that fixes the problem. We should be seeing the changes in about 4 hours, as the MediaWiki messages are cached if and when your language is the same as the wiki's content language. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It seems to be working fine now. --[[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 17:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks Jack. I asked a couple of times on IRC but was ignored and gave up eventually. Didn't cross my mind to ask on your talk page :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Monaco ==<br />
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Can change the default skin of the Dutch HP wiki tom Monaco.{{SUBST:Gebruiker:Samben/signature}} 22:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hosting ==<br />
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Will/Is Shoutwiki going to be hosting wikis with their own address (e.g stargate-wiki.org :D )? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, it's certainly something that we're planning to offer, either as a premium feature or as a normal one (I'm thinking that premium might be a bit easier on the techs, I'm not sure how easy/difficult setting up such a thing is). You might want to ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] about his plans regarding custom domains, as those aren't exactly my domain (no pun intended!). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Delete http://monaco.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Monaco_Wiki ==<br />
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Hello!<br />
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Please delete http://monaco.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Monaco_Wiki - we have moved to another host.<br><br />
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[[User:AWAMember|AWAMember]] ([[User_talk:AWAMember|Talk page]], [[Special:EmailUser/AWAMember|Mail me]]). 17:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:It's very sad to see a wiki go, especially for the Monaco wiki as you don't even seem to have the Monaco skin on your new wiki...in any case, I've deleted the wiki as per your request. Best of luck with the wiki on the new address! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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*in [http://zh-tw.website.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 網站百科全書]<br />
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*require_once("$IP/extensions/ChangeAuthor/ChangeAuthor.setup.php"); $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['changeauthor'] = true;<br />
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*request add Permissions 隱藏員 ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RevisionDelete Manual:RevisionDelete])。<br />
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*$wgAddGroups['bureaucrat'] = array('隱藏員','巡查員','巡查豁免者','跨维基导入者');<br />
*$wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'] = array('隱藏員','巡查員','巡查豁免者','跨维基导入者');<br />
*$wgAddGroups['sysop'] = array('巡查員','巡查豁免者');<br />
*$wgRemoveGroups['sysop'] = array('巡查員','巡查豁免者');<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['跨维基导入者']['import'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['deleterevision'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['hideuser'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['suppressrevision'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['suppressionlog'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['hiderevision'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['abusefilter-hide-log'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['oversight'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['abusefilter-hidden-log'] = true;<br />
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*request add Permissions 巡查豁免者(autopatrol)、巡查員(patroller)。<br />
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*$wgGroupPermissions['巡查豁免者']['autopatrol'] =true;<br />
*$wgGroupPermissions['巡查員']['patrol'] =true;<br />
*$wgGroupPermissions['巡查員']['autopatrol'] =true;<br />
*$wgAddGroups['巡查員'] = array('巡查員','巡查豁免者');<br />
*$wgRemoveGroups['巡查員'] = array('巡查豁免者');<br />
--[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 14:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I've added the first $wgAddGroups and $wgRemoveGroups definitions (without overwriting the defaults), with some changes and the autopatrol and patrol groups. Most of the permissions which you requested for one of the new groups, such as revisiondelete and such, are staff-only for the time being. They may, in extraordinary circumstances, be given out to some trusted users. Of course we'll naturally hope that there will be no need for revisiondelete etc. but if there is, [[ShoutWiki staff]] are here and willing to help you.<br />
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:I'd also suggest using English names in configuration settings; it's the easiest for everybody. The English group names can be customized/translated by editing the appropriate system messages (i.e. [[s:w:zh-tw.website:MediaWiki:Group-autopatrol]], [[s:w:zh-tw.website:MediaWiki:Group-autopatrol-member]], [[s:w:zh-tw.website:MediaWiki:Grouppage-autopatrol]] and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sockpuppeting ==<br />
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What do you guys class as sockpuppeting? Would someone creating another account to get past the 5 wiki thing be a violation of this? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
: Vide [[ShoutWiki Hub:Wiki deletion policy|Wiki deletion policy]] that means deleting all your wikis. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 05:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Yea thats what i thought, and i noticed you let admin2 know this. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 05:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Admin2&diff=5205User talk:Admin22011-02-23T04:58:10Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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Noticed you created another account to make more wikis? Wouldnt it be better to do work on the wikis you already created, seeing as there is practically nothing on them? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_5&diff=5204User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 52011-02-23T04:54:32Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Special:Import not working ==<br />
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I tried to upload a 578 KB unzipped db dump. But I got a message that the 'import size is bigger than maximum allowed'. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 19:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You need to ask staff to make large imports. Make a report at Bugzilla. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I know. But 578 KB is far under the 2.1 MB manual import limit. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== shoutwiki ==<br />
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http://zh.shoutwiki.com REDIRECT to http://zh-tw.shoutwiki.com --[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 06:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
Despite my already busy wiki schedule, I have been helping out on some other wikis to get them looking pretty and looking clean, so as to attract people to begin editing and have a fun time (to be honest its partly because I want wikia to die painfully), anyway I am currently doing up the Charmed Wiki and its a little hard to do without admin abilities. I talked to the guy who made it but received no reply and that was 19 days ago, i tracked him down on wikia and asked but still no reply. I understand if you feel one person having too much power around here could be a bad thing, but you are more than welcome to remove said powers after I am done. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 09:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Escyos, <br> KhanWiz seems to be active again, have you still not received a reply? --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 00:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::hardly, he just uploaded a pic. I noticed he is still active on the wikia one yet doesnt seem so interested in the shoutwiki one. technically i got a reply, which was just about the logo and nothing else. I sincerely doubt he has any interest in this wiki however if the wikia one is any indication of their style of writing, thats a good thing. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:*As you have probably noticed, I have contacted him and he replied and granted you admin rights. Happy editing. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 12:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Vector, Monaco, ads and longterm financial stability ==<br />
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At Wikia there is this forum: [http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:You_guys_suck&action=view Forum: You guys suck]<br />
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Some thoughts I have adapted from that thread. <br />
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I prefer the Vector skin. Maybe Wikia will allow wikis to make it the default skin. Shoutwiki will allow it as the default skin when they upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16. Competition is good. <br />
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In any case, wiki farms have to figure out how to make money. Paying for Monaco and other "premium" skins will not work in my opinion. It almost always comes back to ad revenue, and where to put the ads. Otherwise wiki farms don't survive profitably. Left sidebars at 300 pixels wide would work, along with header ads, and bottom of the page ads. But then the content space is squeezed if a fixed-width is used that is too narrow (as at Wikia). <br />
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A wider left sidebar is fine if content space has a fluid width up to a certain maximum width. This way the content space expands or shrinks to work with smartphones, laptops, PC monitors, and wider screens. But that maximum width has to be wider than the current fixed width at Wikia. The ratio of content space width to sidebar width will more and more be the determining factor in popularity of wiki farms in my opinion. <br />
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A possible solution for any wiki farm is to put the ads (marked clearly as "ads") in content space, and to use a narrow sidebar, or no sidebar. Monaco has a narrow left sidebar, and Wikia used Monaco to put ads in content space. In spite of those ads people could live with it because logged-in users could turn the ads off in preferences. Ads are fine in content space as long as they are marked in the top or bottom caption as "ads". <br />
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There is a near-religious war between people who think they can survive with narrow sidebar text ads (which is not financially possible in the long run), and people who think they can squeeze content space way too much (Wikia lately) in order to plaster the rest of the space with ads, "spotlights", fluff, bling, you-name-it. And right sidebars make it even worse. They block large images and tables. <br />
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Vector has a narrow left sidebar and a fluid, flexible width. It is good in my opinion to always use the latest MediaWiki skin since they have been fairly well tested. There is also an extension for nested sidebar site navigation that works with Vector: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS_MenuSidebar Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]. For more info, and to see it in use go here: [http://ac.wikkii.net/w/index.php?title=Forum:Sidebar_Menus_working_now Forum:Sidebar Menus working now]. There is also a way to add a nested menu sidebar without an extension just by adding some CSS and JS. ''[http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page Halopedia]'' has one that could be adapted to the Vector skin. <br />
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Vector, like any skin, is infinitely customizable via CSS and JS. It can have one or two sidebars of any width. It can have content space of any width, fixed width, flexible width, or any combination. It can have any color text, and any number of background colors and images. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 08:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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*Hello there, thank you for your thoughts. <br>Competition is indeed good, as it forces people to be more and more creative and find new ways to do things. Money is an issue that is always relevant. However, we at ShoutWiki believe in the concept of premium features. It's strange that you can say that it will not work when in fact no-one has seen premium features in action, as we have not yet released them. It is our strong belief that ads are not the only way to make a wiki farm profitable.<br><br>We also believe that users prefer control over their wiki instead of obtrusive ads &mdash; even if the control costs a few dollars. On ShoutWiki, only anonymous and very new users will see advertisements. Autoconfirmed users (the majority of registered users) will not see ads, although they can force ads to display by adding <tt>forceads=true</tt> to the URL query string.<br><br> In addition to this, ads are normally displayed only on content pages in order to comply with the ad providers' terms of use. As Jack wrote to another user [[User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 3#Some extensions|a while ago]], there is no need to install an extension to create folding sidebars, similar to what the Monaco skin has. It is entirely possible to achieve this effect with some JavaScript and CSS.<br><br> While we realize that people like Vector, we won't be forcing it down the users' throats, in a manner that Wikimedia sites did. When Vector was deployed on Wikimedia projects, such as the English Wikipedia, it was not only made the site default skin, but also the default skin for all users, which many found annoying. Simply put, we believe in choices &mdash; in ''freedom''. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I hope you are right about the premium features bringing in enough money to justify the staff time to maintain them. Wordpress.com makes a substantial amount of money from their Custom CSS Upgrade. See: http://en.support.wordpress.com/custom-css <br />
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::This allows them to minimize the ads they show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress.com <br />
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::But there are millions of blogs on Wordpress.com and so there is a large pool of people willing to pay for premium features. There are not nearly as many admins on wikis. I assume admins are the ones most likely to pay for premium features on wikis. <br />
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::Freedom is good of course. I assume you will let people use Monobook or Vector for free. Maybe some other skins too that come with MediaWiki. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 20:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Please import ==<br />
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[http://nba.wikia.com/wiki/NBA_Wiki NBA Wikia] to [http://nba.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NBA ShoutWiki], [http://nfl.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wikia] to [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL ShoutWiki], and [http://college-basketball.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball Wikia] to [http://collegebasketball.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball ShoutWiki] Thanks! --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 15:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You should file bug reports under Imports on Bugzilla for these. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Solar Dragon. I forgot about Bugzilla. I've filed the bugs. --Hockeyben<br />
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Please note that these wikis are not very active, so the DB Dump does not need to be updated, the early February updated will work fine --Hockeyben<br />
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== Slate ==<br />
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Please change the Monaco theme on [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wiki] to Slate. Thanks --Hockeyben<br />
*I informed the techs about your request, they should change it for you soon. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 15:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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**This has now been done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Permissions ==<br />
<br />
Please give me [[Special:ListGroupRights|sharedhelp]] permission.--[[User:Z135793|Z135793]] ([[User talk:Z135793|talk]]) 08:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hi there, <br>Before we grant the rights of help page editors, we usually want to see what type of help pages you would write and what their quality would be. To do this, you can write a few help page you would like to add to our help pages on a user subpage. Once those pages are done, we will review them and then move them to the help namespace. Once we see you are writing good help pages, we will grant you the rights. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 17:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Support Center for the [[s:w:eureka|English]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka|French]] Eureka Wikies and a very old request. ==<br />
<br />
Hi Jack,<br/>I still have no answer for 3 requests, [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=942117 this one], [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=905753 this one] and [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=822650 that very old one]. Do you have any answer please? Thank you very much for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 17:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Limafox, Jack, I replied to this on my talk page after receiving the same question. Sorry it took so long to get back to Limafox. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 15:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Create a wiki ==<br />
<br />
Is there a way to create a wiki without giving away my e-mail address? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 06:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No, but if you don't trust shoutwiki, what you can do is make another email address. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 06:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:*Part of the reason why we ask for users to have a valid email address when making a wiki is because spambots usually do not have valid email addresses, it prevents spam wikis from being created. It also ensures that we always have a way of contacting a wikis founder should there ever be a need to contact him or her. And per Escyos, there are many places where you can make an email address for free if you do not want to use your private email for ShoutWiki. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 13:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Splitting up CSS ==<br />
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Hi Jack. I am wondering if you know of a way to split CSS into separate files, rather than have it all in Common.css.<br /><br />
I have made a template that requires quite a bit of CSS that is not used elsewhere. It would be nice to be able to put that CSS in a separate file, and then use <pre>@import url('path/to/Template.css')</pre> (or similar) to get it into Common.css. Is this possible?<br /><br />
Thanks in advance<br />
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btw, you might find [http://pathofexile.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:DSectionStart the template] interesting, although it is purely decorative. - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 05:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Please be aware that splitting up common CSS/JS into multiple pages means that more HTTP requests = slower pageloads. It can also make some JS scripts fail. That being said, it's possible to split up CSS into multiple pages. Use <code>@import "/w/index.php?action=raw&ctype=text/css&title=MediaWiki:Your_custom.css";</code> in your MediaWiki:Common.css to import the contents of <code>MediaWiki:Your_custom.css</code> into it.<br />
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:In JavaScript, you can use <code>importStylesheet</code> function to import a page as CSS; for example, <code>importStylesheet( 'MediaWiki:Your_custom.css' );</code><br />
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:--[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Great, thanks! - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 20:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== "What links here" problem ==<br />
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[[File:What links here problem.png|thumb|300px|An example of the random page it returns - this being "WhatLinksHere"]]<br />
Hi Jack, I'm having a problem with the "What links here" on the Monaco skin on Wikisimpsons. The link, in the sidebar, produces a "what links here" for a random page. If you reload the cache (CTRL + F5) it produces another random page, being "Abraham Simpson" for the example. It's fairly annoying and difficult to work with, although it seems to work fine in the Monobook skin. Thanks, Jordan ([[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 10:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC))<br />
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:Now that's an odd problem! It seems that the problem occurs only in some pages; I tested the Homer Simpson page and it was totally OK, while the template page in the picture was not. I [http://simpsons.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AMonaco-toolbox&diff=191776&oldid=190893 tweaked] the MediaWiki:Monaco-toolbox message on Wikisimpsons; let's hope that that fixes the problem. We should be seeing the changes in about 4 hours, as the MediaWiki messages are cached if and when your language is the same as the wiki's content language. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It seems to be working fine now. --[[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 17:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks Jack. I asked a couple of times on IRC but was ignored and gave up eventually. Didn't cross my mind to ask on your talk page :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Monaco ==<br />
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Can change the default skin of the Dutch HP wiki tom Monaco.{{SUBST:Gebruiker:Samben/signature}} 22:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hosting ==<br />
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Will/Is Shoutwiki going to be hosting wikis with their own address (e.g stargate-wiki.org :D )? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, it's certainly something that we're planning to offer, either as a premium feature or as a normal one (I'm thinking that premium might be a bit easier on the techs, I'm not sure how easy/difficult setting up such a thing is). You might want to ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] about his plans regarding custom domains, as those aren't exactly my domain (no pun intended!). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Delete http://monaco.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Monaco_Wiki ==<br />
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Hello!<br />
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Please delete http://monaco.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Monaco_Wiki - we have moved to another host.<br><br />
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[[User:AWAMember|AWAMember]] ([[User_talk:AWAMember|Talk page]], [[Special:EmailUser/AWAMember|Mail me]]). 17:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:It's very sad to see a wiki go, especially for the Monaco wiki as you don't even seem to have the Monaco skin on your new wiki...in any case, I've deleted the wiki as per your request. Best of luck with the wiki on the new address! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Request ==<br />
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*in [http://zh-tw.website.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 網站百科全書]<br />
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*require_once("$IP/extensions/ChangeAuthor/ChangeAuthor.setup.php"); $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['changeauthor'] = true;<br />
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*request add Permissions 隱藏員 ([http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:RevisionDelete Manual:RevisionDelete])。<br />
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*$wgAddGroups['bureaucrat'] = array('隱藏員','巡查員','巡查豁免者','跨维基导入者');<br />
*$wgRemoveGroups['bureaucrat'] = array('隱藏員','巡查員','巡查豁免者','跨维基导入者');<br />
*$wgAddGroups['sysop'] = array('巡查員','巡查豁免者');<br />
*$wgRemoveGroups['sysop'] = array('巡查員','巡查豁免者');<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['跨维基导入者']['import'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['deleterevision'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['hideuser'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['suppressrevision'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['suppressionlog'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['hiderevision'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['abusefilter-hide-log'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['oversight'] = true;<br />
* $wgGroupPermissions['隱藏員']['abusefilter-hidden-log'] = true;<br />
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*request add Permissions 巡查豁免者(autopatrol)、巡查員(patroller)。<br />
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*$wgGroupPermissions['巡查豁免者']['autopatrol'] =true;<br />
*$wgGroupPermissions['巡查員']['patrol'] =true;<br />
*$wgGroupPermissions['巡查員']['autopatrol'] =true;<br />
*$wgAddGroups['巡查員'] = array('巡查員','巡查豁免者');<br />
*$wgRemoveGroups['巡查員'] = array('巡查豁免者');<br />
--[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 14:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I've added the first $wgAddGroups and $wgRemoveGroups definitions (without overwriting the defaults), with some changes and the autopatrol and patrol groups. Most of the permissions which you requested for one of the new groups, such as revisiondelete and such, are staff-only for the time being. They may, in extraordinary circumstances, be given out to some trusted users. Of course we'll naturally hope that there will be no need for revisiondelete etc. but if there is, [[ShoutWiki staff]] are here and willing to help you.<br />
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:I'd also suggest using English names in configuration settings; it's the easiest for everybody. The English group names can be customized/translated by editing the appropriate system messages (i.e. [[s:w:zh-tw.website:MediaWiki:Group-autopatrol]], [[s:w:zh-tw.website:MediaWiki:Group-autopatrol-member]], [[s:w:zh-tw.website:MediaWiki:Grouppage-autopatrol]] and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Sockpuppeting ==<br />
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What do you guys class as sockpuppeting? Would someone creating another account to get past the 5 wiki thing be a violation of this? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_5&diff=5140User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 52011-02-21T04:42:05Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>{{User talk:Jack Phoenix/header}}<br />
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== Special:Import not working ==<br />
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I tried to upload a 578 KB unzipped db dump. But I got a message that the 'import size is bigger than maximum allowed'. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 19:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You need to ask staff to make large imports. Make a report at Bugzilla. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I know. But 578 KB is far under the 2.1 MB manual import limit. --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 22:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== shoutwiki ==<br />
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http://zh.shoutwiki.com REDIRECT to http://zh-tw.shoutwiki.com --[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 06:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
Despite my already busy wiki schedule, I have been helping out on some other wikis to get them looking pretty and looking clean, so as to attract people to begin editing and have a fun time (to be honest its partly because I want wikia to die painfully), anyway I am currently doing up the Charmed Wiki and its a little hard to do without admin abilities. I talked to the guy who made it but received no reply and that was 19 days ago, i tracked him down on wikia and asked but still no reply. I understand if you feel one person having too much power around here could be a bad thing, but you are more than welcome to remove said powers after I am done. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 09:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Escyos, <br> KhanWiz seems to be active again, have you still not received a reply? --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 00:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::hardly, he just uploaded a pic. I noticed he is still active on the wikia one yet doesnt seem so interested in the shoutwiki one. technically i got a reply, which was just about the logo and nothing else. I sincerely doubt he has any interest in this wiki however if the wikia one is any indication of their style of writing, thats a good thing. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:*As you have probably noticed, I have contacted him and he replied and granted you admin rights. Happy editing. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 12:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Vector, Monaco, ads and longterm financial stability ==<br />
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At Wikia there is this forum: [http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:You_guys_suck&action=view Forum: You guys suck]<br />
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Some thoughts I have adapted from that thread. <br />
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I prefer the Vector skin. Maybe Wikia will allow wikis to make it the default skin. Shoutwiki will allow it as the default skin when they upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16. Competition is good. <br />
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In any case, wiki farms have to figure out how to make money. Paying for Monaco and other "premium" skins will not work in my opinion. It almost always comes back to ad revenue, and where to put the ads. Otherwise wiki farms don't survive profitably. Left sidebars at 300 pixels wide would work, along with header ads, and bottom of the page ads. But then the content space is squeezed if a fixed-width is used that is too narrow (as at Wikia). <br />
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A wider left sidebar is fine if content space has a fluid width up to a certain maximum width. This way the content space expands or shrinks to work with smartphones, laptops, PC monitors, and wider screens. But that maximum width has to be wider than the current fixed width at Wikia. The ratio of content space width to sidebar width will more and more be the determining factor in popularity of wiki farms in my opinion. <br />
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A possible solution for any wiki farm is to put the ads (marked clearly as "ads") in content space, and to use a narrow sidebar, or no sidebar. Monaco has a narrow left sidebar, and Wikia used Monaco to put ads in content space. In spite of those ads people could live with it because logged-in users could turn the ads off in preferences. Ads are fine in content space as long as they are marked in the top or bottom caption as "ads". <br />
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There is a near-religious war between people who think they can survive with narrow sidebar text ads (which is not financially possible in the long run), and people who think they can squeeze content space way too much (Wikia lately) in order to plaster the rest of the space with ads, "spotlights", fluff, bling, you-name-it. And right sidebars make it even worse. They block large images and tables. <br />
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Vector has a narrow left sidebar and a fluid, flexible width. It is good in my opinion to always use the latest MediaWiki skin since they have been fairly well tested. There is also an extension for nested sidebar site navigation that works with Vector: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS_MenuSidebar Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]. For more info, and to see it in use go here: [http://ac.wikkii.net/w/index.php?title=Forum:Sidebar_Menus_working_now Forum:Sidebar Menus working now]. There is also a way to add a nested menu sidebar without an extension just by adding some CSS and JS. ''[http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page Halopedia]'' has one that could be adapted to the Vector skin. <br />
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Vector, like any skin, is infinitely customizable via CSS and JS. It can have one or two sidebars of any width. It can have content space of any width, fixed width, flexible width, or any combination. It can have any color text, and any number of background colors and images. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 08:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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*Hello there, thank you for your thoughts. <br>Competition is indeed good, as it forces people to be more and more creative and find new ways to do things. Money is an issue that is always relevant. However, we at ShoutWiki believe in the concept of premium features. It's strange that you can say that it will not work when in fact no-one has seen premium features in action, as we have not yet released them. It is our strong belief that ads are not the only way to make a wiki farm profitable.<br><br>We also believe that users prefer control over their wiki instead of obtrusive ads &mdash; even if the control costs a few dollars. On ShoutWiki, only anonymous and very new users will see advertisements. Autoconfirmed users (the majority of registered users) will not see ads, although they can force ads to display by adding <tt>forceads=true</tt> to the URL query string.<br><br> In addition to this, ads are normally displayed only on content pages in order to comply with the ad providers' terms of use. As Jack wrote to another user [[User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 3#Some extensions|a while ago]], there is no need to install an extension to create folding sidebars, similar to what the Monaco skin has. It is entirely possible to achieve this effect with some JavaScript and CSS.<br><br> While we realize that people like Vector, we won't be forcing it down the users' throats, in a manner that Wikimedia sites did. When Vector was deployed on Wikimedia projects, such as the English Wikipedia, it was not only made the site default skin, but also the default skin for all users, which many found annoying. Simply put, we believe in choices &mdash; in ''freedom''. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I hope you are right about the premium features bringing in enough money to justify the staff time to maintain them. Wordpress.com makes a substantial amount of money from their Custom CSS Upgrade. See: http://en.support.wordpress.com/custom-css <br />
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::This allows them to minimize the ads they show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress.com <br />
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::But there are millions of blogs on Wordpress.com and so there is a large pool of people willing to pay for premium features. There are not nearly as many admins on wikis. I assume admins are the ones most likely to pay for premium features on wikis. <br />
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::Freedom is good of course. I assume you will let people use Monobook or Vector for free. Maybe some other skins too that come with MediaWiki. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 20:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Please import ==<br />
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[http://nba.wikia.com/wiki/NBA_Wiki NBA Wikia] to [http://nba.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NBA ShoutWiki], [http://nfl.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wikia] to [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL ShoutWiki], and [http://college-basketball.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball Wikia] to [http://collegebasketball.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball ShoutWiki] Thanks! --[[User:Hockeyben|<font color=orange>'''Hockeyben'''</font>]]<small> - [[User talk:Hockeyben|<font color=black>Talk</font>]]</small> 15:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You should file bug reports under Imports on Bugzilla for these. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Solar Dragon. I forgot about Bugzilla. I've filed the bugs. --Hockeyben<br />
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Please note that these wikis are not very active, so the DB Dump does not need to be updated, the early February updated will work fine --Hockeyben<br />
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== Slate ==<br />
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Please change the Monaco theme on [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wiki] to Slate. Thanks --Hockeyben<br />
*I informed the techs about your request, they should change it for you soon. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 15:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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**This has now been done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:18, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Permissions ==<br />
<br />
Please give me [[Special:ListGroupRights|sharedhelp]] permission.--[[User:Z135793|Z135793]] ([[User talk:Z135793|talk]]) 08:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hi there, <br>Before we grant the rights of help page editors, we usually want to see what type of help pages you would write and what their quality would be. To do this, you can write a few help page you would like to add to our help pages on a user subpage. Once those pages are done, we will review them and then move them to the help namespace. Once we see you are writing good help pages, we will grant you the rights. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 17:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Support Center for the [[s:w:eureka|English]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka|French]] Eureka Wikies and a very old request. ==<br />
<br />
Hi Jack,<br/>I still have no answer for 3 requests, [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=942117 this one], [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=905753 this one] and [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=822650 that very old one]. Do you have any answer please? Thank you very much for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 17:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Limafox, Jack, I replied to this on my talk page after receiving the same question. Sorry it took so long to get back to Limafox. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 15:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Create a wiki ==<br />
<br />
Is there a way to create a wiki without giving away my e-mail address? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 06:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No, but if you don't trust shoutwiki, what you can do is make another email address. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 06:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:*Part of the reason why we ask for users to have a valid email address when making a wiki is because spambots usually do not have valid email addresses, it prevents spam wikis from being created. It also ensures that we always have a way of contacting a wikis founder should there ever be a need to contact him or her. And per Escyos, there are many places where you can make an email address for free if you do not want to use your private email for ShoutWiki. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 13:56, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Splitting up CSS ==<br />
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Hi Jack. I am wondering if you know of a way to split CSS into separate files, rather than have it all in Common.css.<br /><br />
I have made a template that requires quite a bit of CSS that is not used elsewhere. It would be nice to be able to put that CSS in a separate file, and then use <pre>@import url('path/to/Template.css')</pre> (or similar) to get it into Common.css. Is this possible?<br /><br />
Thanks in advance<br />
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btw, you might find [http://pathofexile.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:DSectionStart the template] interesting, although it is purely decorative. - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 05:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Please be aware that splitting up common CSS/JS into multiple pages means that more HTTP requests = slower pageloads. It can also make some JS scripts fail. That being said, it's possible to split up CSS into multiple pages. Use <code>@import "/w/index.php?action=raw&ctype=text/css&title=MediaWiki:Your_custom.css";</code> in your MediaWiki:Common.css to import the contents of <code>MediaWiki:Your_custom.css</code> into it.<br />
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:In JavaScript, you can use <code>importStylesheet</code> function to import a page as CSS; for example, <code>importStylesheet( 'MediaWiki:Your_custom.css' );</code><br />
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:--[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Great, thanks! - [[User:Malice|Malice]] ([[User talk:Malice|talk]]) 20:52, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== "What links here" problem ==<br />
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[[File:What links here problem.png|thumb|300px|An example of the random page it returns - this being "WhatLinksHere"]]<br />
Hi Jack, I'm having a problem with the "What links here" on the Monaco skin on Wikisimpsons. The link, in the sidebar, produces a "what links here" for a random page. If you reload the cache (CTRL + F5) it produces another random page, being "Abraham Simpson" for the example. It's fairly annoying and difficult to work with, although it seems to work fine in the Monobook skin. Thanks, Jordan ([[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 10:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC))<br />
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:Now that's an odd problem! It seems that the problem occurs only in some pages; I tested the Homer Simpson page and it was totally OK, while the template page in the picture was not. I [http://simpsons.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AMonaco-toolbox&diff=191776&oldid=190893 tweaked] the MediaWiki:Monaco-toolbox message on Wikisimpsons; let's hope that that fixes the problem. We should be seeing the changes in about 4 hours, as the MediaWiki messages are cached if and when your language is the same as the wiki's content language. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::It seems to be working fine now. --[[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 17:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Thanks Jack. I asked a couple of times on IRC but was ignored and gave up eventually. Didn't cross my mind to ask on your talk page :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Monaco ==<br />
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Can change the default skin of the Dutch HP wiki tom Monaco.{{SUBST:Gebruiker:Samben/signature}} 22:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Done. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:10, 20 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hosting ==<br />
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Will/Is Shoutwiki going to be hosting wikis with their own address (e.g stargate-wiki.org :D )? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Stargate&diff=5116Stargate2011-02-20T04:56:37Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>{{Wiki<br />
|language = en<br />
|name = Stargate Wiki<br />
|subdomain = stargate<br />
|requester = Escyos<br />
|date = October 10, 2010<br />
|logo = http://shoutwiki.com/w/images/stargate/b/bc/Wiki.png<br />
|description = A wiki for the television franchise, ''Stargate''. The largest canon-only Stargate wiki on the internet!<br />
|category = Television<br />
}}<br />
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{{Wiki<br />
|language = fr<br />
|name = Stargate Wiki FR<br />
|subdomain = fr.stargate<br />
|requester = LIMAFOX76<br />
|date = October 07, 2010<br />
|logo = http://shoutwiki.com/w/images/fr.stargate/b/bc/Wiki.png<br />
|description = This wiki is about everything on the ''Stargate'' universe, films, series and merchandise.<br/>Ce wiki a pour sujet ''Stargate'' et tout son univers : films, séries et produits licenciés liés.<br />
|category = Television<br />
}}<br />
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{{Wiki<br />
|language = en<br />
|name = Stargate Fanon<br />
|subdomain = stargatefanon<br />
|requester = Escyos<br />
|date = October 17, 2010<br />
|logo = http://shoutwiki.com/w/images/stargatefanon/b/bc/Wiki.png<br />
|description = A site for fanon works regarding the ''Stargate'' franchise.<br />
|category = Television<br />
}}<br />
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[[fr:Stargate]]</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_5&diff=5036User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 52011-02-14T06:44:57Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Special:Import not working ==<br />
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I tried to upload a 578 KB unzipped db dump. But I got a message that the 'import size is bigger than maximum allowed'. --{{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 19:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You need to ask staff to make large imports. Make a report at Bugzilla. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I know. But 578 KB is far under the 2.1 MB manual import limit. --{{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 22:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== shoutwiki ==<br />
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http://zh.shoutwiki.com REDIRECT to http://zh-tw.shoutwiki.com --[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 06:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
Despite my already busy wiki schedule, I have been helping out on some other wikis to get them looking pretty and looking clean, so as to attract people to begin editing and have a fun time (to be honest its partly because I want wikia to die painfully), anyway I am currently doing up the Charmed Wiki and its a little hard to do without admin abilities. I talked to the guy who made it but received no reply and that was 19 days ago, i tracked him down on wikia and asked but still no reply. I understand if you feel one person having too much power around here could be a bad thing, but you are more than welcome to remove said powers after I am done. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 09:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Escyos, <br> KhanWiz seems to be active again, have you still not received a reply? --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 00:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::hardly, he just uploaded a pic. I noticed he is still active on the wikia one yet doesnt seem so interested in the shoutwiki one. technically i got a reply, which was just about the logo and nothing else. I sincerely doubt he has any interest in this wiki however if the wikia one is any indication of their style of writing, thats a good thing. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:*As you have probably noticed, I have contacted him and he replied and granted you admin rights. Happy editing. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 12:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Vector, Monaco, ads and longterm financial stability ==<br />
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At Wikia there is this forum: [http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:You_guys_suck&action=view Forum: You guys suck]<br />
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Some thoughts I have adapted from that thread. <br />
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I prefer the Vector skin. Maybe Wikia will allow wikis to make it the default skin. Shoutwiki will allow it as the default skin when they upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16. Competition is good. <br />
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In any case, wiki farms have to figure out how to make money. Paying for Monaco and other "premium" skins will not work in my opinion. It almost always comes back to ad revenue, and where to put the ads. Otherwise wiki farms don't survive profitably. Left sidebars at 300 pixels wide would work, along with header ads, and bottom of the page ads. But then the content space is squeezed if a fixed-width is used that is too narrow (as at Wikia). <br />
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A wider left sidebar is fine if content space has a fluid width up to a certain maximum width. This way the content space expands or shrinks to work with smartphones, laptops, PC monitors, and wider screens. But that maximum width has to be wider than the current fixed width at Wikia. The ratio of content space width to sidebar width will more and more be the determining factor in popularity of wiki farms in my opinion. <br />
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A possible solution for any wiki farm is to put the ads (marked clearly as "ads") in content space, and to use a narrow sidebar, or no sidebar. Monaco has a narrow left sidebar, and Wikia used Monaco to put ads in content space. In spite of those ads people could live with it because logged-in users could turn the ads off in preferences. Ads are fine in content space as long as they are marked in the top or bottom caption as "ads". <br />
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There is a near-religious war between people who think they can survive with narrow sidebar text ads (which is not financially possible in the long run), and people who think they can squeeze content space way too much (Wikia lately) in order to plaster the rest of the space with ads, "spotlights", fluff, bling, you-name-it. And right sidebars make it even worse. They block large images and tables. <br />
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Vector has a narrow left sidebar and a fluid, flexible width. It is good in my opinion to always use the latest MediaWiki skin since they have been fairly well tested. There is also an extension for nested sidebar site navigation that works with Vector: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS_MenuSidebar Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]. For more info, and to see it in use go here: [http://ac.wikkii.net/w/index.php?title=Forum:Sidebar_Menus_working_now Forum:Sidebar Menus working now]. There is also a way to add a nested menu sidebar without an extension just by adding some CSS and JS. ''[http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page Halopedia]'' has one that could be adapted to the Vector skin. <br />
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Vector, like any skin, is infinitely customizable via CSS and JS. It can have one or two sidebars of any width. It can have content space of any width, fixed width, flexible width, or any combination. It can have any color text, and any number of background colors and images. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 08:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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*Hello there, thank you for your thoughts. <br>Competition is indeed good, as it forces people to be more and more creative and find new ways to do things. Money is an issue that is always relevant. However, we at ShoutWiki believe in the concept of premium features. It's strange that you can say that it will not work when in fact no-one has seen premium features in action, as we have not yet released them. It is our strong belief that ads are not the only way to make a wiki farm profitable.<br><br>We also believe that users prefer control over their wiki instead of obtrusive ads &mdash; even if the control costs a few dollars. On ShoutWiki, only anonymous and very new users will see advertisements. Autoconfirmed users (the majority of registered users) will not see ads, although they can force ads to display by adding <tt>forceads=true</tt> to the URL query string.<br><br> In addition to this, ads are normally displayed only on content pages in order to comply with the ad providers' terms of use. As Jack wrote to another user [[User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 3#Some extensions|a while ago]], there is no need to install an extension to create folding sidebars, similar to what the Monaco skin has. It is entirely possible to achieve this effect with some JavaScript and CSS.<br><br> While we realize that people like Vector, we won't be forcing it down the users' throats, in a manner that Wikimedia sites did. When Vector was deployed on Wikimedia projects, such as the English Wikipedia, it was not only made the site default skin, but also the default skin for all users, which many found annoying. Simply put, we believe in choices &mdash; in ''freedom''. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I hope you are right about the premium features bringing in enough money to justify the staff time to maintain them. Wordpress.com makes a substantial amount of money from their Custom CSS Upgrade. See: http://en.support.wordpress.com/custom-css <br />
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::This allows them to minimize the ads they show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress.com <br />
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::But there are millions of blogs on Wordpress.com and so there is a large pool of people willing to pay for premium features. There are not nearly as many admins on wikis. I assume admins are the ones most likely to pay for premium features on wikis. <br />
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::Freedom is good of course. I assume you will let people use Monobook or Vector for free. Maybe some other skins too that come with MediaWiki. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 20:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Please import ==<br />
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[http://nba.wikia.com/wiki/NBA_Wiki NBA Wikia] to [http://nba.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NBA ShoutWiki], [http://nfl.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wikia] to [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL ShoutWiki], and [http://college-basketball.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball Wikia] to [http://collegebasketball.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page College Basketball ShoutWiki] Thanks! --{{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 15:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You should file bug reports under Imports on Bugzilla for these. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Solar Dragon. I forgot about Bugzilla. I've filed the bugs. --Hockeyben<br />
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Please note that these wikis are not very active, so the DB Dump does not need to be updated, the early February updated will work fine --Hockeyben<br />
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== Slate ==<br />
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Please change the Monaco theme on [http://nfl.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page NFL Wiki] to Slate. Thanks --Hockeyben<br />
*I informed the techs about your request, they should change it for you soon. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 15:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Permissions ==<br />
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Please give me [[Special:ListGroupRights|sharedhelp]] permission.--[[User:Z135793|Z135793]] ([[User talk:Z135793|talk]]) 08:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hi there, <br>Before we grant the rights of help page editors, we usually want to see what type of help pages you would write and what their quality would be. To do this, you can write a few help page you would like to add to our help pages on a user subpage. Once those pages are done, we will review them and then move them to the help namespace. Once we see you are writing good help pages, we will grant you the rights. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 17:34, 12 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Support Center for the [[s:w:eureka|English]] and [[s:w:fr.eureka|French]] Eureka Wikies and a very old request. ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br/>I still have no answer for 3 requests, [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=942117 this one], [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=905753 this one] and [http://support.shoutwiki.com/view.php?id=822650 that very old one]. Do you have any answer please? Thank you very much for your answer. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 17:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Create a wiki ==<br />
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Is there a way to create a wiki without giving away my e-mail address? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 06:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No, but if you don't trust shoutwiki, what you can do is make another email address. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 06:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_5&diff=4838User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 52011-02-05T01:21:44Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Special:Import not working ==<br />
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I tried to upload a 578 KB unzipped db dump. But I got a message that the 'import size is bigger than maximum allowed'. --{{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 19:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You need to ask staff to make large imports. Make a report at Bugzilla. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I know. But 578 KB is far under the 2.1 MB manual import limit. --{{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 22:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== shoutwiki ==<br />
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http://zh.shoutwiki.com REDIRECT to http://zh-tw.shoutwiki.com --[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 06:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
Despite my already busy wiki schedule, I have been helping out on some other wikis to get them looking pretty and looking clean, so as to attract people to begin editing and have a fun time (to be honest its partly because I want wikia to die painfully), anyway I am currently doing up the Charmed Wiki and its a little hard to do without admin abilities. I talked to the guy who made it but received no reply and that was 19 days ago, i tracked him down on wikia and asked but still no reply. I understand if you feel one person having too much power around here could be a bad thing, but you are more than welcome to remove said powers after I am done. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 09:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Escyos, <br> KhanWiz seems to be active again, have you still not received a reply? --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 00:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
::hardly, he just uploaded a pic. I noticed he is still active on the wikia one yet doesnt seem so interested in the shoutwiki one. technically i got a reply, which was just about the logo and nothing else. I sincerely doubt he has any interest in this wiki however if the wikia one is any indication of their style of writing, thats a good thing. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_5&diff=4826User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 52011-02-03T09:02:27Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Special:Import not working ==<br />
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I tried to upload a 578 KB unzipped db dump. But I got a message that the 'import size is bigger than maximum allowed'. --{{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 19:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:You need to ask staff to make large imports. Make a report at Bugzilla. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I know. But 578 KB is far under the 2.1 MB manual import limit. --{{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 22:42, 2 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== shoutwiki ==<br />
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http://zh.shoutwiki.com REDIRECT to http://zh-tw.shoutwiki.com --[[User:Yyaootw|Yyaootw]] ([[User talk:Yyaootw|talk]]) 06:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Wiki Adoption ==<br />
Despite my already busy wiki schedule, I have been helping out on some other wikis to get them looking pretty and looking clean, so as to attract people to begin editing and have a fun time (to be honest its partly because I want wikia to die painfully), anyway I am currently doing up the Charmed Wiki and its a little hard to do without admin abilities. I talked to the guy who made it but received no reply and that was 19 days ago, i tracked him down on wikia and asked but still no reply. I understand if you feel one person having too much power around here could be a bad thing, but you are more than welcome to remove said powers after I am done. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 09:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lynton&diff=4466User talk:Lynton2011-01-24T12:53:26Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>== Beep ==<br />
Just letting you know I ripped-off and tweaked your "simplified" userpage style for mine. Complaints can be sent to the usual [mailto:iknowyoudontcare@whodunit.org complaint department] ;) [[User:Derfel|<span style="color:#A9A9A9;">'''dɛɾfəl'''</span>]] <staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Derfel|<span style="color:#A9A9A9;">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 19:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Looking good! — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 23:51, 14 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== I need help! ==<br />
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Hi,Lynton,I see that you are the staff here so I will ask you.Could you copy the dragonball.wikia.com to the dragonball.shoutwiki.com(I made it).Could you please also keep the Monaco skin. If you could please also make a wiki Dragon Ball Fanon and copy it from dragonballfanon.wikia.com (Also with Monaco skin).These 2 wiki's are very popular and you will get a big community boost.We are doing this because of the new skin which Wiki made,so you will have more wikis moved ;) --[[User:Gotehagetanks|Gotehagetanks]] ([[User talk:Gotehagetanks|talk]]) 11:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hiya Gotehagetanks. I've put in a [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=51 request] for these wikis to be imported by our Technical Team, and given you standard founder rights on [[s:w:dbfanon|dbfanon.shoutwiki]], where I've requested the fanon wiki be imported to, as [[s:w:dragonballfanon|dragonballfanon.shoutwiki]] is already in use. However, once your wiki is operational you may like to discuss taking over that subdomain with the founder/community there.<br />
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:As for the skin, Monaco will soon be available as a premium (paid) feature. We haven't yet finalized the pricing (and a few other things) on premium features, but once we do, we'll make them available. Don't worry, we'll try to make Monaco as affordable as possible, while still maintaining profitability.<br />
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:Please let me know if you need anything else. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 12:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ok,so Monaco is going to be paid? That's really bad,but thanks anyways your reply was helpfull:) {{unsigned|Kajalamorth|00:00 UTC, 16 October 2010}}<br />
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== Hey I need a new skin. ==<br />
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Hey I need help with a new skin. Hmm I just created a wiki. Before I start creating articles I would like to have a skin made for it. Here is the link :) [http://crackdown.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page Crackdown Wiki] [[User:Kajalamorth|Kajalamorth]] ([[User talk:Kajalamorth|talk]]) 00:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi there. When you created the wiki you would have seen a number of options for the skin. If you would like to change the one you've picked, you can let us know. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 11:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Are you guys thinking about making a new skin? Like Monaco? It would make the wikia much more customizable. :) [[User:Kajalamorth|K'jal'mar]] ([[User talk:Kajalamorth| The talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kajalamorth| Contribs]]) 13:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::An array of skins will soon be available as premium (paid) features. See my reply above for more information. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 14:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hello Lynton ==<br />
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I'm JacktheBlack the bureaucrat from Gearspedia the Gears of War wikia. I'm a new "immigrant" from Wikia. I would like to know if it would be possible for me to port or any easy way to get my 1000 plus pages too Shout.--[[User:JacktheBlack|JacktheBlack]] ([[User talk:JacktheBlack|talk]]) 17:06, 3 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi there! Our Technical Team can assist you with importing the content from your existing wiki. Imports are currently on hold while we move to new servers, so in the meantime, create a wiki here at ShoutWiki with your desired subdomain, and reply here with the Wikia URL. I'll then create the job for our techs to get to once the server move is complete. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 15:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I'd already created a wikia here when I'd first sign up.--[[User:JacktheBlack|JacktheBlack]] ([[User talk:JacktheBlack|talk]]) 22:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Changing a wiki ==<br />
<br />
I accidentally set the wiki I created as public instead of private. I want it publicly viewable but editing restricted to users. Is it possible to change the wiki type?<br />
<br />
[[User:Sascha Kreiger|Sascha Kreiger]] ([[User talk:Sascha Kreiger|talk]]) 05:50, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Sascha. We received your email about this issue and the ticket has been assigned to our technical team. However, they have been extremely busy with wiki imports. I've sent a reminder about your ticket and you should hear back from them soon. Thanks for your patience. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikicars wants to merge with Autopedia ==<br />
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[http://wikicars.org/en/User_talk:Red_marquis#Sh.2At Urgent message]. [http://wikicars.org Wikicars] wants to merge with [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com Autopedia]! Could you please import everything from there? Its got 6000 articles+ --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 04:53, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Misza is handling this issue. In future, if there's an issue that you want to bring to the attention of all staff, you can use [[Special:Contact]] rather than posting on individual talk pages. This also allows us to assign the task to the appropriate staff member. Thanks, — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 01:32, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, but please help the wiki move. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:24, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::As I said, Misza is handling this. If he needs assistance he will let me know. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 14:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help wiki ==<br />
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Why did you closed the help wiki? {{unsigned|Samben}} 18:04, 30 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:There were two main reasons. Firstly, ShoutWiki help pages are located here on Hub. The help pages on that wiki were simply copied from Hub. In future, when our official help pages are updated, those would have been out of date. There is no reason to have either a carbon copy or outdated wiki confusing users.<br />
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:Secondly, that wiki had pages for users who needed help to ask for it. While community help is always appreciated, that can be provided here on Hub, where staff are monitoring edits and are able to assist as required. That was not the situation with the help wiki. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 10:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Load times ==<br />
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The load times on [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1996-97_Quebec_Semi-Pro_Hockey_League_season Ice Hockey Wiki] are extremely slow. I am averaging between 30 seconds and 2 minutes to load a page, and it's been like this (Though not quite as bad) for about a week. Any idea why this might be happening? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 15:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The load time seems normal to me. I ran a test with [http://rapid.searchmetrics.com/en/seo-tools/site-analysis/website-speed-test,46.html this tool] which gave 2.9 seconds as the average load time. Maybe this is a problem with your connection. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 03:26, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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There seems to be a pattern, in the morning (Eastern Time Zone) it is slow, in the afternoon it is even slower, and the site sometimes goes down for an hour or 2. In the evening the site is generally fast, with intermittent slow times. All other websites are loading fine, so I don't think that my connection is the problem. [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 03:57, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I'll pass that information on to our technical team. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 11:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::That happens to me sometimes. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Same pattern: slow in the morning and afternoon, and fast in the evening. [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 03:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How to import wiki? ==<br />
Hello Lynton , how do I import a Wikia wiki to Shoutwiki?, I need a tutorial.<br />
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--[[User:Reigh100|Reigh100]] ([[User talk:Reigh100|talk]]) 17:19, 20 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:See [[ShoutWiki Hub:Importing wikis to ShoutWiki]]. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 22:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks Solar Dragon. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Hockey ==<br />
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Could you help with the question I asked on Jacks talkpage? {{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 02:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied there. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
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I've got a question. What exactly is ShoutWiki and where is it located (headquartered) and who created this? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 04:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:We're working on updating the [[ShoutWiki Hub:About]] page, so keep an eye on that for this sort of information. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 09:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::How is that supposed to help? Why can't you give me a direct answer? It's not like you've got something to hide right? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Closed wikis==<br />
Why were Chaser, Battlestar, Lost, Farscape, Indiana Jones, and that 70s show wikis closed? Yes i hadnt go around to doing muchyet but thats becausei had little time until recently. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 06:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It is most probably something to do with this 5 wiki limit per user that has been introduced to stop many empty wikis being made. Unlike Wikia, ShoutWiki do not like empty wikis and want many complete wikis instead. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 09:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::if so i would like to be asked which ones i want to keep first {{User:Escyos/sig}} 10:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I sent an email to the address you have registered in [[Special:Preferences]], explaining the reasoning behind the closure. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 12:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::I read the email and fair enough I was doing very little, mostly due to the hectic time I was having, even though I was on holiday, which ended the day you deleted those wikis. As for the Dark Angel and Stargate Fanon ones, I have started the basic stuff on them and will be adding more now that I have time to do it all, which includes all of the wikis. I intend the focus around 70% of my wiki-time to a single wiki for a few days and then move on building each one up gradually, at teh sam etime stealing away editors from wikia :) . {{User:Escyos/sig}} 12:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lynton&diff=4372User talk:Lynton2011-01-22T10:35:33Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>== Beep ==<br />
Just letting you know I ripped-off and tweaked your "simplified" userpage style for mine. Complaints can be sent to the usual [mailto:iknowyoudontcare@whodunit.org complaint department] ;) [[User:Derfel|<span style="color:#A9A9A9;">'''dɛɾfəl'''</span>]] <staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Derfel|<span style="color:#A9A9A9;">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 19:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Looking good! — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 23:51, 14 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== I need help! ==<br />
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Hi,Lynton,I see that you are the staff here so I will ask you.Could you copy the dragonball.wikia.com to the dragonball.shoutwiki.com(I made it).Could you please also keep the Monaco skin. If you could please also make a wiki Dragon Ball Fanon and copy it from dragonballfanon.wikia.com (Also with Monaco skin).These 2 wiki's are very popular and you will get a big community boost.We are doing this because of the new skin which Wiki made,so you will have more wikis moved ;) --[[User:Gotehagetanks|Gotehagetanks]] ([[User talk:Gotehagetanks|talk]]) 11:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hiya Gotehagetanks. I've put in a [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=51 request] for these wikis to be imported by our Technical Team, and given you standard founder rights on [[s:w:dbfanon|dbfanon.shoutwiki]], where I've requested the fanon wiki be imported to, as [[s:w:dragonballfanon|dragonballfanon.shoutwiki]] is already in use. However, once your wiki is operational you may like to discuss taking over that subdomain with the founder/community there.<br />
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:As for the skin, Monaco will soon be available as a premium (paid) feature. We haven't yet finalized the pricing (and a few other things) on premium features, but once we do, we'll make them available. Don't worry, we'll try to make Monaco as affordable as possible, while still maintaining profitability.<br />
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:Please let me know if you need anything else. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 12:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ok,so Monaco is going to be paid? That's really bad,but thanks anyways your reply was helpfull:) {{unsigned|Kajalamorth|00:00 UTC, 16 October 2010}}<br />
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== Hey I need a new skin. ==<br />
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Hey I need help with a new skin. Hmm I just created a wiki. Before I start creating articles I would like to have a skin made for it. Here is the link :) [http://crackdown.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page Crackdown Wiki] [[User:Kajalamorth|Kajalamorth]] ([[User talk:Kajalamorth|talk]]) 00:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi there. When you created the wiki you would have seen a number of options for the skin. If you would like to change the one you've picked, you can let us know. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 11:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Are you guys thinking about making a new skin? Like Monaco? It would make the wikia much more customizable. :) [[User:Kajalamorth|K'jal'mar]] ([[User talk:Kajalamorth| The talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kajalamorth| Contribs]]) 13:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::An array of skins will soon be available as premium (paid) features. See my reply above for more information. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 14:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hello Lynton ==<br />
<br />
I'm JacktheBlack the bureaucrat from Gearspedia the Gears of War wikia. I'm a new "immigrant" from Wikia. I would like to know if it would be possible for me to port or any easy way to get my 1000 plus pages too Shout.--[[User:JacktheBlack|JacktheBlack]] ([[User talk:JacktheBlack|talk]]) 17:06, 3 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi there! Our Technical Team can assist you with importing the content from your existing wiki. Imports are currently on hold while we move to new servers, so in the meantime, create a wiki here at ShoutWiki with your desired subdomain, and reply here with the Wikia URL. I'll then create the job for our techs to get to once the server move is complete. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 15:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I'd already created a wikia here when I'd first sign up.--[[User:JacktheBlack|JacktheBlack]] ([[User talk:JacktheBlack|talk]]) 22:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Changing a wiki ==<br />
<br />
I accidentally set the wiki I created as public instead of private. I want it publicly viewable but editing restricted to users. Is it possible to change the wiki type?<br />
<br />
[[User:Sascha Kreiger|Sascha Kreiger]] ([[User talk:Sascha Kreiger|talk]]) 05:50, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Sascha. We received your email about this issue and the ticket has been assigned to our technical team. However, they have been extremely busy with wiki imports. I've sent a reminder about your ticket and you should hear back from them soon. Thanks for your patience. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Wikicars wants to merge with Autopedia ==<br />
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[http://wikicars.org/en/User_talk:Red_marquis#Sh.2At Urgent message]. [http://wikicars.org Wikicars] wants to merge with [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com Autopedia]! Could you please import everything from there? Its got 6000 articles+ --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 04:53, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Misza is handling this issue. In future, if there's an issue that you want to bring to the attention of all staff, you can use [[Special:Contact]] rather than posting on individual talk pages. This also allows us to assign the task to the appropriate staff member. Thanks, — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 01:32, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, but please help the wiki move. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:24, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::As I said, Misza is handling this. If he needs assistance he will let me know. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 14:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help wiki ==<br />
<br />
Why did you closed the help wiki? {{unsigned|Samben}} 18:04, 30 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:There were two main reasons. Firstly, ShoutWiki help pages are located here on Hub. The help pages on that wiki were simply copied from Hub. In future, when our official help pages are updated, those would have been out of date. There is no reason to have either a carbon copy or outdated wiki confusing users.<br />
<br />
:Secondly, that wiki had pages for users who needed help to ask for it. While community help is always appreciated, that can be provided here on Hub, where staff are monitoring edits and are able to assist as required. That was not the situation with the help wiki. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 10:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Load times ==<br />
<br />
The load times on [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1996-97_Quebec_Semi-Pro_Hockey_League_season Ice Hockey Wiki] are extremely slow. I am averaging between 30 seconds and 2 minutes to load a page, and it's been like this (Though not quite as bad) for about a week. Any idea why this might be happening? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 15:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The load time seems normal to me. I ran a test with [http://rapid.searchmetrics.com/en/seo-tools/site-analysis/website-speed-test,46.html this tool] which gave 2.9 seconds as the average load time. Maybe this is a problem with your connection. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 03:26, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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There seems to be a pattern, in the morning (Eastern Time Zone) it is slow, in the afternoon it is even slower, and the site sometimes goes down for an hour or 2. In the evening the site is generally fast, with intermittent slow times. All other websites are loading fine, so I don't think that my connection is the problem. [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 03:57, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I'll pass that information on to our technical team. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 11:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::That happens to me sometimes. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Same pattern: slow in the morning and afternoon, and fast in the evening. [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 03:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How to import wiki? ==<br />
Hello Lynton , how do I import a Wikia wiki to Shoutwiki?, I need a tutorial.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Reigh100|Reigh100]] ([[User talk:Reigh100|talk]]) 17:19, 20 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:See [[ShoutWiki Hub:Importing wikis to ShoutWiki]]. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 22:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks Solar Dragon. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Hockey ==<br />
<br />
Could you help with the question I asked on Jacks talkpage? {{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 02:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied there. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Question ==<br />
<br />
I've got a question. What exactly is ShoutWiki and where is it located (headquartered) and who created this? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 04:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Closed wikis==<br />
Why were Chaser, Battlestar, Lost, Farscape, Indiana Jones, and that 70s show wikis closed? Yes i hadnt go around to doing muchyet but thats becausei had little time until recently. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 06:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It is most probably something to do with this 5 wiki limit per user that has been introduced to stop many empty wikis being made. Unlike Wikia, ShoutWiki do not like empty wikis and want many complete wikis instead. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 09:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::if so i would like to be asked which ones i want to keep first {{User:Escyos/sig}} 10:35, 22 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lynton&diff=4366User talk:Lynton2011-01-22T06:41:40Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>== Beep ==<br />
Just letting you know I ripped-off and tweaked your "simplified" userpage style for mine. Complaints can be sent to the usual [mailto:iknowyoudontcare@whodunit.org complaint department] ;) [[User:Derfel|<span style="color:#A9A9A9;">'''dɛɾfəl'''</span>]] <staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Derfel|<span style="color:#A9A9A9;">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 19:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Looking good! — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 23:51, 14 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== I need help! ==<br />
<br />
Hi,Lynton,I see that you are the staff here so I will ask you.Could you copy the dragonball.wikia.com to the dragonball.shoutwiki.com(I made it).Could you please also keep the Monaco skin. If you could please also make a wiki Dragon Ball Fanon and copy it from dragonballfanon.wikia.com (Also with Monaco skin).These 2 wiki's are very popular and you will get a big community boost.We are doing this because of the new skin which Wiki made,so you will have more wikis moved ;) --[[User:Gotehagetanks|Gotehagetanks]] ([[User talk:Gotehagetanks|talk]]) 11:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hiya Gotehagetanks. I've put in a [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=51 request] for these wikis to be imported by our Technical Team, and given you standard founder rights on [[s:w:dbfanon|dbfanon.shoutwiki]], where I've requested the fanon wiki be imported to, as [[s:w:dragonballfanon|dragonballfanon.shoutwiki]] is already in use. However, once your wiki is operational you may like to discuss taking over that subdomain with the founder/community there.<br />
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:As for the skin, Monaco will soon be available as a premium (paid) feature. We haven't yet finalized the pricing (and a few other things) on premium features, but once we do, we'll make them available. Don't worry, we'll try to make Monaco as affordable as possible, while still maintaining profitability.<br />
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:Please let me know if you need anything else. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 12:03, 15 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ok,so Monaco is going to be paid? That's really bad,but thanks anyways your reply was helpfull:) {{unsigned|Kajalamorth|00:00 UTC, 16 October 2010}}<br />
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== Hey I need a new skin. ==<br />
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Hey I need help with a new skin. Hmm I just created a wiki. Before I start creating articles I would like to have a skin made for it. Here is the link :) [http://crackdown.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page Crackdown Wiki] [[User:Kajalamorth|Kajalamorth]] ([[User talk:Kajalamorth|talk]]) 00:00, 16 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi there. When you created the wiki you would have seen a number of options for the skin. If you would like to change the one you've picked, you can let us know. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 11:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Are you guys thinking about making a new skin? Like Monaco? It would make the wikia much more customizable. :) [[User:Kajalamorth|K'jal'mar]] ([[User talk:Kajalamorth| The talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Kajalamorth| Contribs]]) 13:31, 17 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::An array of skins will soon be available as premium (paid) features. See my reply above for more information. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 14:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Hello Lynton ==<br />
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I'm JacktheBlack the bureaucrat from Gearspedia the Gears of War wikia. I'm a new "immigrant" from Wikia. I would like to know if it would be possible for me to port or any easy way to get my 1000 plus pages too Shout.--[[User:JacktheBlack|JacktheBlack]] ([[User talk:JacktheBlack|talk]]) 17:06, 3 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi there! Our Technical Team can assist you with importing the content from your existing wiki. Imports are currently on hold while we move to new servers, so in the meantime, create a wiki here at ShoutWiki with your desired subdomain, and reply here with the Wikia URL. I'll then create the job for our techs to get to once the server move is complete. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 15:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Thank you. I'd already created a wikia here when I'd first sign up.--[[User:JacktheBlack|JacktheBlack]] ([[User talk:JacktheBlack|talk]]) 22:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Changing a wiki ==<br />
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I accidentally set the wiki I created as public instead of private. I want it publicly viewable but editing restricted to users. Is it possible to change the wiki type?<br />
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[[User:Sascha Kreiger|Sascha Kreiger]] ([[User talk:Sascha Kreiger|talk]]) 05:50, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Hi Sascha. We received your email about this issue and the ticket has been assigned to our technical team. However, they have been extremely busy with wiki imports. I've sent a reminder about your ticket and you should hear back from them soon. Thanks for your patience. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikicars wants to merge with Autopedia ==<br />
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[http://wikicars.org/en/User_talk:Red_marquis#Sh.2At Urgent message]. [http://wikicars.org Wikicars] wants to merge with [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com Autopedia]! Could you please import everything from there? Its got 6000 articles+ --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 04:53, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Misza is handling this issue. In future, if there's an issue that you want to bring to the attention of all staff, you can use [[Special:Contact]] rather than posting on individual talk pages. This also allows us to assign the task to the appropriate staff member. Thanks, — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 01:32, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, but please help the wiki move. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:24, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::As I said, Misza is handling this. If he needs assistance he will let me know. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 14:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help wiki ==<br />
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Why did you closed the help wiki? {{unsigned|Samben}} 18:04, 30 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:There were two main reasons. Firstly, ShoutWiki help pages are located here on Hub. The help pages on that wiki were simply copied from Hub. In future, when our official help pages are updated, those would have been out of date. There is no reason to have either a carbon copy or outdated wiki confusing users.<br />
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:Secondly, that wiki had pages for users who needed help to ask for it. While community help is always appreciated, that can be provided here on Hub, where staff are monitoring edits and are able to assist as required. That was not the situation with the help wiki. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 10:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Load times ==<br />
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The load times on [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1996-97_Quebec_Semi-Pro_Hockey_League_season Ice Hockey Wiki] are extremely slow. I am averaging between 30 seconds and 2 minutes to load a page, and it's been like this (Though not quite as bad) for about a week. Any idea why this might be happening? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 15:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The load time seems normal to me. I ran a test with [http://rapid.searchmetrics.com/en/seo-tools/site-analysis/website-speed-test,46.html this tool] which gave 2.9 seconds as the average load time. Maybe this is a problem with your connection. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 03:26, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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There seems to be a pattern, in the morning (Eastern Time Zone) it is slow, in the afternoon it is even slower, and the site sometimes goes down for an hour or 2. In the evening the site is generally fast, with intermittent slow times. All other websites are loading fine, so I don't think that my connection is the problem. [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 03:57, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I'll pass that information on to our technical team. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 11:10, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::That happens to me sometimes. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:14, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Same pattern: slow in the morning and afternoon, and fast in the evening. [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 03:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== How to import wiki? ==<br />
Hello Lynton , how do I import a Wikia wiki to Shoutwiki?, I need a tutorial.<br />
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--[[User:Reigh100|Reigh100]] ([[User talk:Reigh100|talk]]) 17:19, 20 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:See [[ShoutWiki Hub:Importing wikis to ShoutWiki]]. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 22:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks Solar Dragon. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Hockey ==<br />
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Could you help with the question I asked on Jacks talkpage? {{SUBST:User:Hockeyben/Sig 3}} 02:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Replied there. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
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I've got a question. What exactly is ShoutWiki and where is it located (headquartered) and who created this? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 04:13, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Closed wikis==<br />
Why were Chaser, Battlestar, Lost, Farscape, Indiana Jones, and that 70s show wikis closed? Yes i hadnt go around to doing muchyet but thats becausei had little time until recently. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 06:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_4&diff=4317User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 42011-01-20T04:00:46Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Vector skin ==<br />
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When will the Vector be released? and will it be similiar to Wikipedia's? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 16:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:When we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16, in other words, soon. It won't be just similar, it'll be the same skin (but things like the "new editor" on Wikipedia etc. are separate extensions; see [[mw:Extension:UsabilityInitiative|Extension:UsabilityInitiative on MediaWiki.org]] for more information). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:53, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Problems==<br />
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On my [[s:w:xaterex|new wiki]], pages have stopped loading. Whenever I try to load any page, I get a blank white page. I use the Monaco skin, and as far as I know, no other shoutwiki sites are experiencing this problem. Could you please help? <br />
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[[User:Varkanax40|<span style=color:darkred>'''''Lord Skorpix'''''</span>]]<br />
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This has been happening intermittently to me too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Allow me to step in. Shoutwiki is currently undergoing imports which will slow the servers, once the imports are done the speed will increase. Yes it can be annoying having it work one second and not the next....but would you prefer to have your wiki buried in ads on wikia? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 23:23, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Actually, the speed has been much better today.--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Skins==<br />
When Shoutwiki is upgraded to Mediawiki 1.16, will the Simple, Nostalgia, MySkin, Classic, and Chick skins be available?--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. If you have a strong case for enabling one of these skins on your wiki, please contact us via [[Special:Contact]]. --'''[[User:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#808080">Skiz</span>]][[User talk:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#395D7E">zerz</span>]]''' <staff /> 19:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::To elaborate a bit more on what Skizzerz wrote: these skins are legacy skins that still &mdash; unfortunately! &mdash; ship with MediaWiki. For example, the Nostalgia skin has been designed to look like how Wikipedia did in its first year (2001). These skins are outdated and hardly maintained; if an obvious bug is found and it's easy to fix, it'll get fixed but these skins aren't actively being developed.<br />
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::The skins you mentioned are all over 6 years old, although the same goes for Cologne Blue and Monobook, too. The difference between Monobook, Modern and Vector and these legacy skins is that the former three are being actively developed and Monobook and Vector are the two most popular skins on Wikimedia projects. Unfortunately as users on the English Wikipedia and some other Wikimedia Foundation wikis still use these legacy skins, us MediaWiki developers haven't been able to kill them off. I hope this clears it up a bit. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== en. ==<br />
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Could you please remove the <code>en.</code> on my URL for [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It doesn't look like it is there anymore. I see the wiki at http://auto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/. {{User:Ajraddatz/sig1}} 16:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::That's weird. Howcome its there and then gone? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 02:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::The wiki can be accessed using either subdomain. It has been like that for some time. I've passed your request onto the technical team Silver Knight. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::This has been fixed by Misza. Note that it is currently possible to access the site via both subdomains; I am working on a solution that will redirect the en.auto subdomain to auto. --'''[[User:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#808080">Skiz</span>]][[User talk:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#395D7E">zerz</span>]]''' <staff /> 19:42, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks guys. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Your userpage ==<br />
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I noticed on your userpage that three of your "interesting wikis" are mine. YAY! {{User:Escyos/sig}} 03:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:You seem to have a good taste when it comes to TV series, then. ;-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== A rather odd request in regards to global countervandalism ==<br />
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Hello Jack, I have what may seem like a rather odd request in regards to the countervandalism at the global level.<br />
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I think that it would be a good idea if ShoutWiki were to use the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GlobalBlocking global block extension] to do all global blocks, rather than phalanx. Likewise, it might be good to scrap phalanx altogether and use the separate systems.<br />
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Now, I realise that phalanx was designed to make this stuff easier; to have it all on one page, essentially. However, what it lacks is transparency, and as a result, accountability. It is impossible for regular users to see which users and IPs are globally blocked, and why. This then turns global countervandalism into some secret thing done in a basement somewhere with the door to the room closed and locked. Nobody can see inside to point out blatant abuse, etc. Thanks, {{User:Ajraddatz/sig1}} 06:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Read the page carefully. GlobalBlocking extension allows "to block a single IP address"; IIRC it still doesn't do username blocks. That is already enough of a reason not to switch Phalanx to GlobalBlocking.<br />
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:However, I do want to emphasize that we, [[ShoutWiki Staff|the staff]], take things like this seriously. Unlike some people, we don't block people ShoutWiki-wide for fun. We block them if they're automated spambots or are trying to disrupt several wikis with clear malicious intent. As our [[terms of use]] state, we provide the hosting for wikis for free (unless they're buying premium features, such as new skins or ad removal; premium features haven't been released yet though); I don't think that it's unreasonable that we have the final say over whether a given user or IP is allowed to access the site.<br />
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:The point about there not being a way to check if a given user or IP is blocked is valid, though. Would an [[mw:API|API]] module with some throttling be okay? Of course it'd be nice to allow unthrottled access, but it kinda defeats the point of keeping the blocked IPs, phrases and regexes private. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::An API module would solve the problem, I think, by allowing access when it is needed but essencially preventing recreational use. I thought that global blocking allowed for the blocking of usernames as well, but regardless, I think that your idea is all that is needed. Thanks! {{User:Ajraddatz/sig1}} 19:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::This is actually more complicated than I expected it to be (I thought that I can just copypaste relevant code from different files and slap it under a class that extends ApiBase &mdash; well, I was wrong on that). I've opened a bug so that this won't be totally forgotten, see [[bz:135|bug #135]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Special cached pages not processing? ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. On [http://manantica.shoutwiki.com my wiki], the special pages that should be showing cached reports (like Special:WantedPages) aren't showing anything. Is this due to backlog/job queue? Some of the red links are more than a week old yet they don't show. And the job queue reports as just 5. <br />
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On an unrelated note, do you have something like database dumps, or any export must be done through Special:Export? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]]<sup>[[User_talk:Scarbrow|talk]]</sup> 01:25, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:These special pages can be updated via [[Special:RefreshSpecial]] on your wiki (you must be [[Help:User rights#Bureaucrats|a bureaucrat]] to access it).<br />
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:As for the database dumps, we don't have those available yet, but we're planning to make them available this year. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:: Thank you, Jack, that worked like a wonder. In fact, I didn't expected it to run so quick (but then, my wiki is still very small). However, shouldn't those pages update from time to time, or is it always up to each wiki's bureaucrats to manually refresh them? Or maybe it was just my case because my wiki is/was very new, still very small, and private? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]]<sup>[[User_talk:Scarbrow|talk]]</sup> 23:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:: Hi, Jack. I wonder, did you notice my previous note? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]]<sup>[[User_talk:Scarbrow|talk]]</sup> 18:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::That is one of the reasons I love ShoutWiki. You don't have to wait for the staff to do the update as they take ages! ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 19:04, 18 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Speed ==<br />
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Shoutwiki has been MUCH faster over the last few days. Have the techs been working on this?--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:36, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The techs have been looking into the site speed issues. The issues aren't fully solved, so the guys are still working on them. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== deletion wiki ==<br />
*[http://wikapedia.shoutwiki.com 維基百科],because and same wikipedia.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 03:47, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
*thanks.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 03:47, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for the report, I've deleted the wiki in question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Bot ==<br />
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Could you please activate the BOT [http://auto.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User:Knightrez&redirect=no Knightrez] on [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? And what do BOTs do?--[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:18, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Umm... you have to download the scripts yourself. I currently use both Auto-Wiki Browser and Pywikipediabot. Once you download these, you can then give yourself the bot flag as you are a steward. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 07:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, but I'm not a BOT pro. Where do I download the scripts? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 14:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::[[mw:Pywikipediabot|MediaWiki.org's page on pywikipediabot]] has some info about pywikipediabot. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::Is there a way you could activate it? Or do I have to download something? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 15:35, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::No, you have to download the programs. Another, slightly easier, thing to use for a beginner is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB AutoWikiBrowser]. This can't do some things that Pywikipediabot does and vice versa though. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I still can't download it! :( --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 00:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Ok then, come on the ShoutWiki IRC channel sometime and I'm sure that users will be happy to help. [irc://irc.shoutwiki.com/shoutwiki IRC channel link]. On Freenode, there are channels for Pywikipediabot (#pywikipedia) and AutoWikiBrowser (#autowikibrowser). People there can help too. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Thanks, but I'll see if [[s:w:auto:User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] because someone asked me for IRC and I refused. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 11:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Wiki edits==<br />
Is there anywhere we can view the largest wikis on the site, i kind of want to see where the [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page Stargate Wiki] is? thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 05:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I asked about it some time ago, there are not. :( But I think 939 articles means 7-10 position. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 08:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Because something is not yet there doesn't mean that it couldn't be in the future. ;-) Sounds like an interesting extension idea, although I can see why it'd be a bit complicated (need to switch between databases to retrieve article count and COUNT(*) is a relatively expensive query; or then use MediaWiki's API). Feel free to file a feature request on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::: But I asked 2 days ago :P [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 14:16, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::Filing a bug means that at least there are some sort of records about what should be done and why. Needless to say that [[ShoutWiki Staff|we]] have a lot of things to do on a typical day and no matter how much we dislike it, forgetting about a talk page message (unless you're being constantly pinged about it, which can also be annoying) is way too easy. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Importing Wikicars ==<br />
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We are going to import wikicars manually. So the software Misza was going to write is no longer needed. Here is the discussion on [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Red_marquis#Importing| Red marquis] talk page.--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 15:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, I can't say that I'm exactly thrilled about it. Of course we'd love to have the content from Wikicars, but importing it manually is pretty much asking for trouble in my opinion. The tools that the tech team has are more server-friendly and reliable. I would seriously suggest that you talk with [[User:Misza|Misza]] about this before starting to do anything drastic. Thanks. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Ny maually, you mean copying and pasting from one site to the other right? Thats what I did, to not let wiki know I was leaving until it was too late and I only had ~250 pages and that was incredibly annoying to do. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 13:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Talk with Misza? There's two messages I left there that he hasn't replied. How do I know if he's inactive or he's simply shunning me? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 14:55, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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One of the reasons we,re going to import manually, is because lots of new spam pages have been created at wikicars, and it would take a long time to sort through them. And we have already uploaded about 5000 wikicars images manually.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 14:54, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== suggestion ==<br />
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Hey, I know you probably get stuff like this a lot and probably can't do this right now, but: If you got some features like a simplified recent changes (like MyHome/Wiki activity on wikia) more users would come here. Many wikia users prefer the simple MyHome look over RecentChanges, so implementing something of that sort would help get more users. Just a suggestion, sorry if I sound like I'm bossing you around or anything. :) [[Special:Contributions/74.32.231.99|74.32.231.99]] 15:42, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. MyHome is pointless and one of Wikia's most useless features. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 18:24, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::MyHome isn't pointless, it's a simpler version of Recent Changes that many users who are unfamiliar with Recent Changes use. I don't really use it, but many users do, if you noticed the people freaking out with Oasis when they thought MyHome was gone. Putting MyHome in here COULD potentially attract users. http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hub/3/36/P.png '''[[User:Jax-Kenobi|<font color="Blue">Jax</font>]]<font color="yellow">-</font>[[User talk:Jax-Kenobi|<font color= "Blue">Kenobi</font>]]''' http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hub/3/36/P.png 22:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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The thing I liked about my home, was the ability to quickly jump between my user page,talk page,and contributions page, and my edit count.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:MyHome sux. I don't like it because it's Wikia-sh --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 02:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::In my personal opinion, MyHome is like an oversimplified version of the enhanced recent changes, which is a simplified version of the standard recent changes page. The reason why people would be "freaking out" due to the lack of MyHome is because they've gotten ''used to it'', but let's face it: MyHome doesn't exist on non-Wikia wikis and yet there are many successful wikis without MyHome out there.<br />
::The key is helping; write sufficient help, i.e. explain what things like (+583) in the recent changes page mean. We have a set of [[Help:Contents|good help pages]] over here, which will be globally available on every wiki once we finish the SharedHelp feature (see [[bz:18|bug #18]] and [[bz:62|bug #62]]). In the meantime, you can encourage users to join and help them out (as always!) after they've joined. Even I learned to use the recent changes page relatively quickly when I was new into wikis, and no-one told me how to read it. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::He's right. recent changes is VERY easy to pick up. I learned by myself within half an hour. Just follow the lines. Simples. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:32, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::I guess your right... Sorry I asked. :/ [[Special:Contributions/74.32.231.99|74.32.231.99]] 21:23, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::There's nothing to apologize, anonymous user. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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===Partial solution===<br />
; don't react so badly to new ideas<br />
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Hey guys stop it. One thing I CANNOT stand is how established editors crush new ideas, usually because of their own biased, narrow experiences with a particular feature. Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean other editors do not find it useful and it has the potential to help draw editors to shoutwiki. In otherwords: if you don't like a feature, don't kill the adaption of the feature, just because you personally don't like it. Shoutwiki could make this an optional feature, which would not hurt your wikis one bit, and may draw more people to shoutwiki.<br />
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I understand that we are all afraid that shoutwiki will become like Wikia, constantly churning out mandatory "improvements" which no one wants. This is a valid concern, but I see no indication of this whatsoever. <br />
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Instead of the several unhelpful '''personal opinions''' above (most but not all), (in that they do nothing but state a set opinion but do not go into technical details why this is not an option) here is a viable solution anon, which I have been working on:<br />
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;Partial solution<br />
Coding:<br />
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On [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]:<br />
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body.page-User_Anno1404 .mw-plusminus-pos {display:none} /* plus minus of each edit */<br />
body.page-User_Anno1404 .mw-rollback-link {display:none} /* rollback link */<br />
body.page-User_Anno1404 .mw-plusminus-null {display:none} /* null edit */<br />
body.page-User_Anno1404 .mw-usertoollinks {display:none} /* (Talk | contribs | block) */<br />
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<nowiki># (diff | hist) . . ! Chronological History of Events; 16:47 . . (+2) . . NT92 (Talk | contribs | block) (→The Willamette Incident: ) [rollback]</nowiki><br />
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If anyone else knows how to remove the other fields like (diff | hist) please let me know!<br />
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; More information<br />
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http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:New_images<br />
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http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Recentchanges <br />
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;Apology and admonishment<br />
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Sorry if I offended any of you, it was not my intention. Many of you I consider friends, I respect highly (Jack), or both. I write this simply because I know you are all open minded and may reconsider and hesitate whether to crush an editors good idea next time. <br />
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Just because you personally don't like something wikia did (blogging on wikis for example) doesn't mean it is not a good idea for the wiki as a whole, especially if it is optional. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 17:31, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Create ==<br />
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Could you create NFL, NBA, College Football,College Basketball,American Football wikis for me? As I am not willing to give out my email address. Thanks--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 04:26, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:No. The reason why a valid e-mail address is required is so that we have a way of contacting you; for example, if you forget your password and request to have it reset, we need to be able to know that the person requesting it really is you and not an imposter. Besides, nowadays it's easy to create a free e-mail address; GMail, Hotmail, etc. are all free and relatively easy to use. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Social tools ==<br />
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Hello, could you please give [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] '''social tools'''. Just like Wikisimpsons? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Let me know the desired [[Help:User Levels#The Levels|user level names]] and [[Help:User Levels#Point values|required amount of points]] and I'll pass your request on to Misza. I don't think that the default, army-related ranks are that good for Autopedia. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I've got an idea. Instead of military ranks, it'll be cars. For example: A recruit would be a Ford Focus while General-of-the-army would be Bugatti Veyron Super Sport (fastest road car in the world) '''I'd would like to have all ranks on the wiki. ''' And this:<br />
*Signing up 1,500<br />
*Adding your first avatar 100<br />
*Leaving a comment 15<br />
*Editing a page in the main namespace 50<br />
*Adding a friend/foe 30<br />
*Giving a gift 35<br />
*Receiving a gift 25<br />
*Taking a poll 25<br />
*Have the most points for a week 100<br />
*Have the most points for a month 1000<br />
--[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 15:02, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm no car expert, even though I can drive one. ;-) And that's precisely the reason why I need all the rank names (i.e. the levels between Ford Focus and Bugatti Veyron Super Sport). Wikisimpsons, for example, has 9 user levels, but your wiki can have more or less (even though there's no actual limit, I'd advise you to be reasonable &mdash; something like 15 or 20 is the maximum in my opinion).<br />
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:::[[Help:Comments|Comments]] extension is a separate extension, but if you want it enabled for your wiki, it's doable. The "taking a poll" refers to [[Help:Social polls|social polls]], which are a bit under development currently (see [[bz:22|bug #22]]) but that feature should be ready for 1.16. Let me know if you want it, too. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::Here's the ranks:<br />
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*0 Ford Focus<br />
*1,200 Chevrolet Silverado<br />
*1,750 Dodge Challenger<br />
*2,500 MINI Cooper<br />
*5,000 Lotus Elise<br />
*10,000 Dodge Viper<br />
*15,000 Aston Martin DB4<br />
*20,000 Ferrari 250<br />
*35,000 Rolls-Royce Ghost<br />
*50,000 Nissan GT-R<br />
*75,000 Lamborghini Gallardo<br />
*100,000 Pagani Zonda F<br />
*150,000 Jaguar XJ220<br />
*250,000 Ferrari Enzo<br />
*350,000 McLaren F1<br />
*500,000 Koenigsegg CCX<br />
*650,000 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo<br />
*800,000 SSC Ultimate Aero<br />
*1,000,000+ Bugatti Veyron Super Sport<br />
--[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 00:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks, I'll ping our tech team about this. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::When will you activate it? I can't wait :) --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 09:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Help ==<br />
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This page is messes up like the Mercury Grand Marquis http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Porsche_Boxster --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 03:56, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Porsche_Boxster&diff=24081&oldid=22585 Fixed]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks. :-) --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 00:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Same problem [http://auto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Cleanup here]. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:55, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::Yet another unclosed tag, which I've now [http://auto.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Template%3ACleanup&diff=25294&oldid=25240 closed]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Releasing monaco skin==<br />
When will shoutwiki release the monaco skin coding? Thank you for your time again. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 17:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:See [[ShoutWiki Hub:Open source]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== 5 wiki limit ==<br />
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Why can I not create more than 5 wikis? I wanted to create College Basketball and American Football wikis. Can the limit be increased, or could you make the wikis for me? (I have now put in an email address) [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:47, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The limit of 5 wikis per user was thought to be a reasonable one; it's hard to focus actively on more than 5 wikis (I can tell by experience!), and we don't want there to be many unused wikis that are basically empty. Fewer wikis and more content on them is what we prefer over lots of empty wikis. :-) That being said, I can create the wikis for you. I need to know the data I'm going to enter to the CreateWiki form: wiki subdomain, language, whether to include language code in the URL or not, wiki type, category, skin and license. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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I'm currently away. And I'm editing from my mobile device. When I get back, I'll tell you the wiki details. I was an administrator on these wikia wikis.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 15:23, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Here's the info to put in:<br />
*wiki name American Football Wiki<br />
*subdomain americanfootball<br />
*language English<br />
*language code No<br />
*wiki type Public<br />
*category Sports<br />
*Skin Monaco<br />
*License CC-BY-SA <br />
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*wiki name College Basketball Wiki<br />
*subdomain collegebasketball<br />
*language English<br />
*language code No<br />
*wiki type Public<br />
*category Sports<br />
*Skin Monaco<br />
*License CC-BY-SA<br />
Could you also give me admin/bureaucrat rights on these wikis? Thanks--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:[[s:w:americanfootball|Done]] and [[s:w:collegebasketball|done]]; enjoy and happy editing! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:41, 18 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Logo ==<br />
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Could you please shrink the logo for [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] a little bit so that the ''T'' and ''A'' on ''The Automobile Encyclopedia'' can be seen. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 12:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm afraid I'm not that good with graphics, sorry. :-( You may want to ask [[User:Supergeeky1|supergeeky1]] or another graphics wizard for help with that. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Wiki Creation==<br />
Hi,<br />
<br />
I'm trying to create a private wiki, but whenever I try to do so an error pops up saying "Action limited to users in group 'emailconfirmed'. I confirmed it, just in case, but it's still not working. Is there a way around this? [[User:Styracosaurus Rider|Styracosaurus Rider]] ([[User talk:Styracosaurus Rider|talk]]) 22:42, 15 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:My staff tools are telling me that you have an e-mail address set in your preferences but it's not confirmed. You should be able to request a new e-mail confirmation code by going to [[Special:ConfirmEmail]] and pressing the button. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::Great!<br />
::Er, how do you make sure only certain users can view and edit private wikis? [[User:Styracosaurus Rider|Styracosaurus Rider]] ([[User talk:Styracosaurus Rider|talk]]) 22:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::Actually, half-done. But I need a test for registered users, can you visit it and see if you can view/edit pages? Here's [http://rubystar.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page the link to that wiki]. [[User:Styracosaurus Rider|Styracosaurus Rider]] ([[User talk:Styracosaurus Rider|talk]]) 00:54, 17 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:::: Wiki can be viewed by you, invited users and staff members (somebody need to control wikis). Jack is a staff member. But I'm not and I can't see pages, so everything is ok. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 05:10, 17 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== HabboWiki ==<br />
Hey I'm crat Imdill3 over at HabboWiki (habbo.wikia.com) and our HabboWiki community is interested in a transfer from Wikia to a new hub. I heard you guys have a similar Monaco skin that is available. Anyways to the point: we would like to transfer with ShoutWiki, with Monaco as a default. We currently have little traffic due to Wikia's Oasis update but, with a huge potential. We also have an answers site running (Habbo.answers.wikia.com), if that would also be an option to transfer, if not merge it with the site it's self). Thank you for your time, I hope to work with you guys in the near future. --[[User:Imdill3|Imdill3]] ([[User talk:Imdill3|talk]]) 08:07, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:You can create a wiki with [[Special:CreateWiki|our CreateWiki tool]]. Once you've done that, you need to file a bug on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com Bugzilla (bug tracker)], requesting for the wiki to be imported. Take a look at [[ShoutWiki Hub:Importing wikis to ShoutWiki]] for more details.<br />
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:I'm afraid that we can't really offer answers wikis, because Wikia is keeping essential parts of the answers codebase to themselves, which effectively prevents third parties (such as us) from duplicating the functionality.<br />
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:Feel free to ask for help on our [[Help:IRC|IRC channel, #ShoutWiki on irc.shoutwiki.com]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Okay, Thank you for your help! I'll get the URL set up and get to work. --[[User:Imdill3|Imdill3]] ([[User talk:Imdill3|talk]]) 05:34, 17 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Template ==<br />
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Help please!! Could you fix [[s:w:auto:Scuderia Ferrari|this page's template]] along with [[s:w:auto:Template:Infobox F1 team|this template]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 11:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm guessing that it's somehow related to [[s:w:auto:Template:Flagicon|the Flagicon template]], which looks like something imported from Wikipedia. Needless to say that Wikipedia's templates are usually complicated. I took a look at it, but it wasn't something I could fix right away. I'll look into it later on. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Yeah but the Infobox F1 teams is not the same as the Scuderia Ferrari page. Could you please fix it? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:39, 17 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::[http://auto.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Scuderia_Ferrari&diff=27595&oldid=25248 Fixed]. The issue was actually way simpler than I thought; a pipe character was missing, adding it back fixed the template. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:41, 18 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Private and School Wikis ==<br />
<br />
Hello Jack Phoenix, <br />
I recently sent a email to shoutwiki a few days ago, it was opened as a support ticket, but I haven't received a response, so I'll ask here.<br />
:I notice you offer a "private" and a "school" wiki, what are the differences between the two? I ask because I'm thinking about making a discussion wiki for my fellow college students, effectively a online school council/debate team for the college, however I don't know which type of wiki would cater for its needs. <br />
*I think the main importance would be that: it has Forum and Blog namespaces (a good example would be the [http://simpsons.shoutwiki.com Simpsons wiki]); it can't be viewed without registering (except some pages such as a Home Page/How to create an account); it has a independent login system (ie no shared logins with public wikis); before accounts are created they need verification by a sysop/bureaucrat; some accounts can be blocked from viewing the wiki.<br />
Thanks, Jordan ([[User:George|George]] ([[User talk:George|talk]]) 15:53, 16 January 2011 (UTC))<br />
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:Hi Jordan, and sorry about the delayed reply. I must say that I prefer these kind of questions to be asked publically, as opposed to using [[Special:Contact]], so that others can see the question and the reply. :-)<br />
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:Anyway, the [[wiki types]] page has some information about the differences between the three wiki types; you may want to check that out unless you already have.<br />
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:I'm quite sure that we can work out something for your wiki; an independent login system might not be doable (at least easily). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:41, 18 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Server feedback ==<br />
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As I said earlier, the server speed overall is much faster, but it is very slow when I try to save a page, taking an average of 30 seconds. Everything else is fine, I'm just trying to give you feedback on how the server is.<br />
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== Help page for importing Wikia wiki? ==<br />
<br />
Hi. I have a bugzilla thread about importing the Cannabis Wiki:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
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I check this talk page now and then, and read something recently that said it might be necessary to create the wiki before the bugzilla import request can be acted on. Is this correct? <br />
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The sidebar links to [[Special:CreateWiki]], but that starts the wiki creation without a link to help. I suggest linking to a wiki-creation help page from the sidebar. <br />
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I looked around a bit for a help page and didn't see one directly linked from the sidebar. I dove into the help pages and found this:<br />
*[[Help:Creating a new wiki]] <br />
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It needs info on whether the wiki should be created first before asking the Shoutwiki staff to import the Wikia wiki. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 11:21, 19 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Poll ==<br />
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Hello. Id there a way to reduce the poll width? See [http://simpsons.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:TheHomer/Episode_test this] page at Wikisimpsons. We're trying to keep the poll the same width as the infobox. [[User:TheHomer|TheHomer]] ([[User talk:TheHomer|talk]]) 17:23, 19 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Thank You ==<br />
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I would just like to thank you and the rest of the staff for providing us with a wondrous place for us to host our wikis, a place soooo much better than wikia. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:00, 20 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_4&diff=4128User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 42011-01-13T13:39:45Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Vector skin ==<br />
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When will the Vector be released? and will it be similiar to Wikipedia's? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 16:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:When we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16, in other words, soon. It won't be just similar, it'll be the same skin (but things like the "new editor" on Wikipedia etc. are separate extensions; see [[mw:Extension:UsabilityInitiative|Extension:UsabilityInitiative on MediaWiki.org]] for more information). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:53, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Problems==<br />
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On my [[s:w:xaterex|new wiki]], pages have stopped loading. Whenever I try to load any page, I get a blank white page. I use the Monaco skin, and as far as I know, no other shoutwiki sites are experiencing this problem. Could you please help? <br />
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[[User:Varkanax40|<span style=color:darkred>'''''Lord Skorpix'''''</span>]]<br />
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This has been happening intermittently to me too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Allow me to step in. Shoutwiki is currently undergoing imports which will slow the servers, once the imports are done the speed will increase. Yes it can be annoying having it work one second and not the next....but would you prefer to have your wiki buried in ads on wikia? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 23:23, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Actually, the speed has been much better today.--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Skins==<br />
When Shoutwiki is upgraded to Mediawiki 1.16, will the Simple, Nostalgia, MySkin, Classic, and Chick skins be available?--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. If you have a strong case for enabling one of these skins on your wiki, please contact us via [[Special:Contact]]. --'''[[User:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#808080">Skiz</span>]][[User talk:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#395D7E">zerz</span>]]''' <staff /> 19:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::To elaborate a bit more on what Skizzerz wrote: these skins are legacy skins that still &mdash; unfortunately! &mdash; ship with MediaWiki. For example, the Nostalgia skin has been designed to look like how Wikipedia did in its first year (2001). These skins are outdated and hardly maintained; if an obvious bug is found and it's easy to fix, it'll get fixed but these skins aren't actively being developed.<br />
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::The skins you mentioned are all over 6 years old, although the same goes for Cologne Blue and Monobook, too. The difference between Monobook, Modern and Vector and these legacy skins is that the former three are being actively developed and Monobook and Vector are the two most popular skins on Wikimedia projects. Unfortunately as users on the English Wikipedia and some other Wikimedia Foundation wikis still use these legacy skins, us MediaWiki developers haven't been able to kill them off. I hope this clears it up a bit. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== en. ==<br />
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Could you please remove the <code>en.</code> on my URL for [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It doesn't look like it is there anymore. I see the wiki at http://auto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/. {{User:Ajraddatz/sig1}} 16:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::That's weird. Howcome its there and then gone? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 02:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::The wiki can be accessed using either subdomain. It has been like that for some time. I've passed your request onto the technical team Silver Knight. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::This has been fixed by Misza. Note that it is currently possible to access the site via both subdomains; I am working on a solution that will redirect the en.auto subdomain to auto. --'''[[User:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#808080">Skiz</span>]][[User talk:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#395D7E">zerz</span>]]''' <staff /> 19:42, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks guys. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Your userpage ==<br />
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I noticed on your userpage that three of your "interesting wikis" are mine. YAY! {{User:Escyos/sig}} 03:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:You seem to have a good taste when it comes to TV series, then. ;-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== A rather odd request in regards to global countervandalism ==<br />
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Hello Jack, I have what may seem like a rather odd request in regards to the countervandalism at the global level.<br />
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I think that it would be a good idea if ShoutWiki were to use the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GlobalBlocking global block extension] to do all global blocks, rather than phalanx. Likewise, it might be good to scrap phalanx altogether and use the separate systems.<br />
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Now, I realise that phalanx was designed to make this stuff easier; to have it all on one page, essentially. However, what it lacks is transparency, and as a result, accountability. It is impossible for regular users to see which users and IPs are globally blocked, and why. This then turns global countervandalism into some secret thing done in a basement somewhere with the door to the room closed and locked. Nobody can see inside to point out blatant abuse, etc. Thanks, {{User:Ajraddatz/sig1}} 06:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Read the page carefully. GlobalBlocking extension allows "to block a single IP address"; IIRC it still doesn't do username blocks. That is already enough of a reason not to switch Phalanx to GlobalBlocking.<br />
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:However, I do want to emphasize that we, [[ShoutWiki Staff|the staff]], take things like this seriously. Unlike some people, we don't block people ShoutWiki-wide for fun. We block them if they're automated spambots or are trying to disrupt several wikis with clear malicious intent. As our [[terms of use]] state, we provide the hosting for wikis for free (unless they're buying premium features, such as new skins or ad removal; premium features haven't been released yet though); I don't think that it's unreasonable that we have the final say over whether a given user or IP is allowed to access the site.<br />
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:The point about there not being a way to check if a given user or IP is blocked is valid, though. Would an [[mw:API|API]] module with some throttling be okay? Of course it'd be nice to allow unthrottled access, but it kinda defeats the point of keeping the blocked IPs, phrases and regexes private. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::An API module would solve the problem, I think, by allowing access when it is needed but essencially preventing recreational use. I thought that global blocking allowed for the blocking of usernames as well, but regardless, I think that your idea is all that is needed. Thanks! {{User:Ajraddatz/sig1}} 19:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::This is actually more complicated than I expected it to be (I thought that I can just copypaste relevant code from different files and slap it under a class that extends ApiBase &mdash; well, I was wrong on that). I've opened a bug so that this won't be totally forgotten, see [[bz:135|bug #135]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Special cached pages not processing? ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. On [http://manantica.shoutwiki.com my wiki], the special pages that should be showing cached reports (like Special:WantedPages) aren't showing anything. Is this due to backlog/job queue? Some of the red links are more than a week old yet they don't show. And the job queue reports as just 5. <br />
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On an unrelated note, do you have something like database dumps, or any export must be done through Special:Export? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]]<sup>[[User_talk:Scarbrow|talk]]</sup> 01:25, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:These special pages can be updated via [[Special:RefreshSpecial]] on your wiki (you must be [[Help:User rights#Bureaucrats|a bureaucrat]] to access it).<br />
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:As for the database dumps, we don't have those available yet, but we're planning to make them available this year. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Speed ==<br />
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Shoutwiki has been MUCH faster over the last few days. Have the techs been working on this?--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:36, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The techs have been looking into the site speed issues. The issues aren't fully solved, so the guys are still working on them. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== deletion wiki ==<br />
*[http://wikapedia.shoutwiki.com 維基百科],because and same wikipedia.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 03:47, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
*thanks.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 03:47, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for the report, I've deleted the wiki in question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Bot ==<br />
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Could you please activate the BOT [http://auto.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User:Knightrez&redirect=no Knightrez] on [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? And what do BOTs do?--[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:18, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:Umm... you have to download the scripts yourself. I currently use both Auto-Wiki Browser and Pywikipediabot. Once you download these, you can then give yourself the bot flag as you are a steward. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 07:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, but I'm not a BOT pro. Where do I download the scripts? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 14:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::[[mw:Pywikipediabot|MediaWiki.org's page on pywikipediabot]] has some info about pywikipediabot. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::Is there a way you could activate it? Or do I have to download something? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 15:35, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::::No, you have to download the programs. Another, slightly easier, thing to use for a beginner is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AWB AutoWikiBrowser]. This can't do some things that Pywikipediabot does and vice versa though. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Wiki edits==<br />
Is there anywhere we can view the largest wikis on the site, i kind of want to see where the [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page Stargate Wiki] is? thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 05:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:I asked about it some time ago, there are not. :( But I think 939 articles means 7-10 position. [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 08:56, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Because something is not yet there doesn't mean that it couldn't be in the future. ;-) Sounds like an interesting extension idea, although I can see why it'd be a bit complicated (need to switch between databases to retrieve article count and COUNT(*) is a relatively expensive query; or then use MediaWiki's API). Feel free to file a feature request on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla]. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::: But I asked 2 days ago :P [[user:Misiek95|Misiek]] ([[user talk:Misiek95|talk]]) 14:16, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::Filing a bug means that at least there are some sort of records about what should be done and why. Needless to say that [[ShoutWiki Staff|we]] have a lot of things to do on a typical day and no matter how much we dislike it, forgetting about a talk page message (unless you're being constantly pinged about it, which can also be annoying) is way too easy. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Importing Wikicars ==<br />
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We are going to import wikicars manually. So the software Misza was going to write is no longer needed. Here is the discussion on [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Red_marquis#Importing| Red marquis] talk page.--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 15:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, I can't say that I'm exactly thrilled about it. Of course we'd love to have the content from Wikicars, but importing it manually is pretty much asking for trouble in my opinion. The tools that the tech team has are more server-friendly and reliable. I would seriously suggest that you talk with [[User:Misza|Misza]] about this before starting to do anything drastic. Thanks. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Ny maually, you mean copying and pasting from one site to the other right? Thats what I did, to not let wiki know I was leaving until it was too late and I only had ~250 pages and that was incredibly annoying to do. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 13:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== suggestion ==<br />
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Hey, I know you probably get stuff like this a lot and probably can't do this right now, but: If you got some features like a simplified recent changes (like MyHome/Wiki activity on wikia) more users would come here. Many wikia users prefer the simple MyHome look over RecentChanges, so implementing something of that sort would help get more users. Just a suggestion, sorry if I sound like I'm bossing you around or anything. :) [[Special:Contributions/74.32.231.99|74.32.231.99]] 15:42, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. MyHome is pointless and one of Wikia's most useless features. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 18:24, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::MyHome isn't pointless, it's a simpler version of Recent Changes that many users who are unfamiliar with Recent Changes use. I don't really use it, but many users do, if you noticed the people freaking out with Oasis when they thought MyHome was gone. Putting MyHome in here COULD potentially attract users. http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hub/3/36/P.png '''[[User:Jax-Kenobi|<font color="Blue">Jax</font>]]<font color="yellow">-</font>[[User talk:Jax-Kenobi|<font color= "Blue">Kenobi</font>]]''' http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hub/3/36/P.png 22:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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The thing I liked about my home, was the ability to quickly jump between my user page,talk page,and contributions page, and my edit count.[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:MyHome sux. I don't like it because it's Wikia-sh --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 02:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::In my personal opinion, MyHome is like an oversimplified version of the enhanced recent changes, which is a simplified version of the standard recent changes page. The reason why people would be "freaking out" due to the lack of MyHome is because they've gotten ''used to it'', but let's face it: MyHome doesn't exist on non-Wikia wikis and yet there are many successful wikis without MyHome out there.<br />
::The key is helping; write sufficient help, i.e. explain what things like (+583) in the recent changes page mean. We have a set of [[Help:Contents|good help pages]] over here, which will be globally available on every wiki once we finish the SharedHelp feature (see [[bz:18|bug #18]] and [[bz:62|bug #62]]). In the meantime, you can encourage users to join and help them out (as always!) after they've joined. Even I learned to use the recent changes page relatively quickly when I was new into wikis, and no-one told me how to read it. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Create ==<br />
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Could you create NFL, NBA, College Football,College Basketball,American Football wikis for me? As I am not willing to give out my email address. Thanks--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 04:26, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:No. The reason why a valid e-mail address is required is so that we have a way of contacting you; for example, if you forget your password and request to have it reset, we need to be able to know that the person requesting it really is you and not an imposter. Besides, nowadays it's easy to create a free e-mail address; GMail, Hotmail, etc. are all free and relatively easy to use. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Social tools ==<br />
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Hello, could you please give [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] '''social tools'''. Just like Wikisimpsons? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Let me know the desired [[Help:User Levels#The Levels|user level names]] and [[Help:User Levels#Point values|required amount of points]] and I'll pass your request on to Misza. I don't think that the default, army-related ranks are that good for Autopedia. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_4&diff=4085User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 42011-01-12T05:54:29Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Vector skin ==<br />
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When will the Vector be released? and will it be similiar to Wikipedia's? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 16:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:When we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16, in other words, soon. It won't be just similar, it'll be the same skin (but things like the "new editor" on Wikipedia etc. are separate extensions; see [[mw:Extension:UsabilityInitiative|Extension:UsabilityInitiative on MediaWiki.org]] for more information). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:53, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Problems==<br />
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On my [[s:w:xaterex|new wiki]], pages have stopped loading. Whenever I try to load any page, I get a blank white page. I use the Monaco skin, and as far as I know, no other shoutwiki sites are experiencing this problem. Could you please help? <br />
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[[User:Varkanax40|<span style=color:darkred>'''''Lord Skorpix'''''</span>]]<br />
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This has been happening intermittently to me too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Allow me to step in. Shoutwiki is currently undergoing imports which will slow the servers, once the imports are done the speed will increase. Yes it can be annoying having it work one second and not the next....but would you prefer to have your wiki buried in ads on wikia? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 23:23, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Actually, the speed has been much better today.--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Skins==<br />
When Shoutwiki is upgraded to Mediawiki 1.16, will the Simple, Nostalgia, MySkin, Classic, and Chick skins be available?--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. If you have a strong case for enabling one of these skins on your wiki, please contact us via [[Special:Contact]]. --'''[[User:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#808080">Skiz</span>]][[User talk:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#395D7E">zerz</span>]]''' <staff /> 19:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::To elaborate a bit more on what Skizzerz wrote: these skins are legacy skins that still &mdash; unfortunately! &mdash; ship with MediaWiki. For example, the Nostalgia skin has been designed to look like how Wikipedia did in its first year (2001). These skins are outdated and hardly maintained; if an obvious bug is found and it's easy to fix, it'll get fixed but these skins aren't actively being developed.<br />
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::The skins you mentioned are all over 6 years old, although the same goes for Cologne Blue and Monobook, too. The difference between Monobook, Modern and Vector and these legacy skins is that the former three are being actively developed and Monobook and Vector are the two most popular skins on Wikimedia projects. Unfortunately as users on the English Wikipedia and some other Wikimedia Foundation wikis still use these legacy skins, us MediaWiki developers haven't been able to kill them off. I hope this clears it up a bit. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== en. ==<br />
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Could you please remove the <code>en.</code> on my URL for [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It doesn't look like it is there anymore. I see the wiki at http://auto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/. {{User:Ajraddatz/sig1}} 16:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::That's weird. Howcome its there and then gone? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 02:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::The wiki can be accessed using either subdomain. It has been like that for some time. I've passed your request onto the technical team Silver Knight. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::::This has been fixed by Misza. Note that it is currently possible to access the site via both subdomains; I am working on a solution that will redirect the en.auto subdomain to auto. --'''[[User:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#808080">Skiz</span>]][[User talk:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#395D7E">zerz</span>]]''' <staff /> 19:42, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks guys. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 01:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Your userpage ==<br />
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I noticed on your userpage that three of your "interesting wikis" are mine. YAY! {{User:Escyos/sig}} 03:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:You seem to have a good taste when it comes to TV series, then. ;-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== A rather odd request in regards to global countervandalism ==<br />
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Hello Jack, I have what may seem like a rather odd request in regards to the countervandalism at the global level.<br />
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I think that it would be a good idea if ShoutWiki were to use the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GlobalBlocking global block extension] to do all global blocks, rather than phalanx. Likewise, it might be good to scrap phalanx altogether and use the separate systems.<br />
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Now, I realise that phalanx was designed to make this stuff easier; to have it all on one page, essentially. However, what it lacks is transparency, and as a result, accountability. It is impossible for regular users to see which users and IPs are globally blocked, and why. This then turns global countervandalism into some secret thing done in a basement somewhere with the door to the room closed and locked. Nobody can see inside to point out blatant abuse, etc. Thanks, {{User:Ajraddatz/sig1}} 06:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Read the page carefully. GlobalBlocking extension allows "to block a single IP address"; IIRC it still doesn't do username blocks. That is already enough of a reason not to switch Phalanx to GlobalBlocking.<br />
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:However, I do want to emphasize that we, [[ShoutWiki Staff|the staff]], take things like this seriously. Unlike some people, we don't block people ShoutWiki-wide for fun. We block them if they're automated spambots or are trying to disrupt several wikis with clear malicious intent. As our [[terms of use]] state, we provide the hosting for wikis for free (unless they're buying premium features, such as new skins or ad removal; premium features haven't been released yet though); I don't think that it's unreasonable that we have the final say over whether a given user or IP is allowed to access the site.<br />
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:The point about there not being a way to check if a given user or IP is blocked is valid, though. Would an [[mw:API|API]] module with some throttling be okay? Of course it'd be nice to allow unthrottled access, but it kinda defeats the point of keeping the blocked IPs, phrases and regexes private. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
::An API module would solve the problem, I think, by allowing access when it is needed but essencially preventing recreational use. I thought that global blocking allowed for the blocking of usernames as well, but regardless, I think that your idea is all that is needed. Thanks! {{User:Ajraddatz/sig1}} 19:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Special cached pages not processing? ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. On [http://manantica.shoutwiki.com my wiki], the special pages that should be showing cached reports (like Special:WantedPages) aren't showing anything. Is this due to backlog/job queue? Some of the red links are more than a week old yet they don't show. And the job queue reports as just 5. <br />
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On an unrelated note, do you have something like database dumps, or any export must be done through Special:Export? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]]<sup>[[User_talk:Scarbrow|talk]]</sup> 01:25, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Speed ==<br />
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Shoutwiki has been MUCH faster over the last few days. Have the techs been working on this?--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:36, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== deletion wiki ==<br />
*[http://wikapedia.shoutwiki.com 維基百科],because and same wikipedia.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 03:47, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
*thanks.--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 03:47, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Bot ==<br />
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Could you please activate the BOT [http://auto.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User:Knightrez&redirect=no Knightrez] on [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? And what do BOTs do?--[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 05:18, 12 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Wiki edits==<br />
Is there anywhere we can view the largest wikis on the site, i kind of want to see where the [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page Stargate Wiki] is? thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 05:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:No_such_wiki&diff=4076Talk:No such wiki2011-01-11T23:43:15Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>Mind I ask why there are two wikis with under 50 articles on this list when there are other bigger wikis on ShoutWiki. Should these smaller wikis be removed and replaced with the bigger ones? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 07:25, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:such as the [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page Stargate Wiki] {{User:Escyos/sig}} 07:53, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::Maybe [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] should be added on. Currently Autopedia has over 960 articles, but once completely imported from Wikicars, we'll have over 6000 articles. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 09:16, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::Those were the two wikis I was thinking of. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:16, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
*Added those two wikis and removed an inactive one. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 19:54, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
OK, cool. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 21:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:sweet, my wikis famous! {{User:Escyos/sig}} 23:43, 11 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:No_such_wiki&diff=4053Talk:No such wiki2011-01-11T07:53:08Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>Mind I ask why there are two wikis with under 50 articles on this list when there are other bigger wikis on ShoutWiki. Should these smaller wikis be removed and replaced with the bigger ones? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 07:25, 11 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:such as the [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page Stargate Wiki] {{User:Escyos/sig}} 07:53, 11 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_4&diff=4011User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 42011-01-09T03:13:17Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>{{User talk:Jack Phoenix/header}}<br />
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== Vector skin ==<br />
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When will the Vector be released? and will it be similiar to Wikipedia's? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 16:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:When we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16, in other words, soon. It won't be just similar, it'll be the same skin (but things like the "new editor" on Wikipedia etc. are separate extensions; see [[mw:Extension:UsabilityInitiative|Extension:UsabilityInitiative on MediaWiki.org]] for more information). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:53, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Problems==<br />
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On my [[s:w:xaterex|new wiki]], pages have stopped loading. Whenever I try to load any page, I get a blank white page. I use the Monaco skin, and as far as I know, no other shoutwiki sites are experiencing this problem. Could you please help? <br />
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[[User:Varkanax40|<span style=color:darkred>'''''Lord Skorpix'''''</span>]]<br />
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This has been happening intermittently to me too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Allow me to step in. Shoutwiki is currently undergoing imports which will slow the servers, once the imports are done the speed will increase. Yes it can be annoying having it work one second and not the next....but would you prefer to have your wiki buried in ads on wikia? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 23:23, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Actually, the speed has been much better today.--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
==Skins==<br />
When Shoutwiki is upgraded to Mediawiki 1.16, will the Simple, Nostalgia, MySkin, Classic, and Chick skins be available?--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
:No. If you have a strong case for enabling one of these skins on your wiki, please contact us via [[Special:Contact]]. --'''[[User:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#808080">Skiz</span>]][[User talk:Skizzerz|<span style="color:#395D7E">zerz</span>]]''' <staff /> 19:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== en. ==<br />
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Could you please remove the <code>en.</code> on my URL for [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:06, 8 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Your userpage ==<br />
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I noticed on your userpage that three of your "interesting wikis" are mine. YAY! {{User:Escyos/sig}} 03:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_4&diff=3984User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 42011-01-07T23:23:51Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Vector skin ==<br />
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When will the Vector be released? and will it be similiar to Wikipedia's? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 16:24, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:When we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.16, in other words, soon. It won't be just similar, it'll be the same skin (but things like the "new editor" on Wikipedia etc. are separate extensions; see [[mw:Extension:UsabilityInitiative|Extension:UsabilityInitiative on MediaWiki.org]] for more information). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:53, 6 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Problems==<br />
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On my [[s:w:xaterex|new wiki]], pages have stopped loading. Whenever I try to load any page, I get a blank white page. I use the Monaco skin, and as far as I know, no other shoutwiki sites are experiencing this problem. Could you please help? <br />
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[[User:Varkanax40|<span style=color:darkred>'''''Lord Skorpix'''''</span>]]<br />
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This has been happening intermittently to me too. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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Allow me to step in. Shoutwiki is currently undergoing imports which will slow the servers, once the imports are done the speed will increase. Yes it can be annoying having it work one second and not the next....but would you prefer to have your wiki buried in ads on wikia? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 23:23, 7 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3917User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32011-01-04T21:43:04Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
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what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
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great article. <br />
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You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
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http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
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[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Some extensions ==<br />
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Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
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:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
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Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
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I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
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Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
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Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
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::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
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::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nope! Check out our [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ Christmas-themed blog post] to find out more about Monaco! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::oh goody! I was planning to get monacco. Question: Does getting premium only work on one wiki or all whom i reign terror over....i mean admin over? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 23:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Currently we've been planning that a premium feature is a per-wiki thing; i.e. an admin pays for a premium skin (say, Monaco) and the skin is enabled for their wiki so everyone visiting the wiki as an anonymous user or opting in (by [[Special:Preferences|changing their preferences]]) will see that skin on that one wiki. However, as noted in many places earlier, very few details have actually been finalized and pretty much everything is still subject to change. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::cool, ok then. Also I seem to be having a difficulty having the sidebar display what i want it to (as seen [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar here]) it doesnt seem to want to display itself on the actual sidebar. perhaps a glitch? or am i missing something? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 00:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Monaco's stuff, such as sidebar and toolbox MediaWiki: messages, are cached for 4 hours. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::ah ok, thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 00:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::another annoying question, is the Monaci theme able to be set as the default for everyone unless they choose otherwise (such as anonymous users) or does the theme have to be chosen? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Yes, it's possible to set Monaco as the default skin of a wiki (see below for an example). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sapphire ==<br />
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How do I change the theme to Monaco sapphire on my wiki? [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:14, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:[[Customer Support Team#Contact us|Contact a member of the customer support team]] or file a bug [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ on our Bugzilla] by yourself; remember to mention the wiki's URL. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 02:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)\<br />
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OK, I would like to change the theme to Sapphire on http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This has been done now, enjoy! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Is there a cache for this? Because i'm still not seeing Sapphire. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not exactly sure. However, I just visited the Ice Hockey Wiki on my IE8's InPrivate mode and I saw Monaco as the default skin. You might wanna check your [[s:w:icehockey:MediaWiki:Monaco.css|local CSS overrides]] for the Monaco skin, too. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Im seeing Monaco, just not the Sapphire theme. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:If you take away the local customizations (MediaWiki:Monaco.css), what's left is the Sapphire theme; it's the default Monaco theme. Every page load with the Monaco skin loads a bunch of CSS files from http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/css/; these files serve as the base of the skin (in a similar manner to Monobook's main.css, except that main.css is one file that contains everything necessary, with the exception of browser-specific fixes and that Monaco doesn't have one main.css file, it has many files) and this base '''is''' the Sapphire theme.<br />
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:If you are using a custom theme, an additional CSS file (<nowiki>http://</nowiki>www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/<code>theme name here</code>/css/main.css) from the theme's css directory is loaded right after the core Monaco CSS files. Thus the theme CSS files are rather short; they don't have to duplicate much code, they can just override some previously set values and that's it. For example, the CSS file for the Romantic Pink Monaco theme (which is located at http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/pink/css/main.css) is only 60 lines long (and 11 of those are comment lines!). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
So just blank the Monaco.css page? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
I am now seeing Sapphire. Thanks for all your help. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 16:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Licensing Confusion ==<br />
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Hello. I'm planning to create a wiki that relies heavily on copying pages and images from another (now offline) site. It used a GFDL free license, and I'm not good at translating the legal babble on sites like those. You know like 10 languages, so I'm assuming you'd be able to tell me whether or not I'd be breaking the law by publishing the articles without proper credit or something like that. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 04:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The rule of thumb is: if it's copyrighted, you can't use it (without naming the authors etc. at least). And if it's not in the [[wikipedia:Public domain|public domain]], it's copyrighted.<br />
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:That being said, I'm not an expert on [[wikipedia:Legalese|Legalese]] in any language, although working with wikis has taught me a lot about all kinds of copyright issues and related things. I believe that in order to use GFDL-licensed content, you must:<br />
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:#Make a copy of the GDFL available on your wiki<br />
:#License your wiki under the GFDL (not too sure about this one)<br />
:#Attribute the authors of the copied content<br />
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:Regarding attribution, linking to the source wiki is obviously out of question if and when the said wiki is offline. Was the wiki a public one? If so, it might have been archived (to a degree) in the [http://archive.org/ Internet Archive]; you can use the Wayback Machine to see what a given site looked like in the past. It might be a possibility to link to the archived version, if the wiki can be found in the archive. If not, maybe you could make a template like [[s:w:commandos:Template:Wikipedia]], stating something like "This page uses material from X wiki, which is released under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). As such, this page and all subsequent edits to it are considered to be released under the GFDL too."<br />
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:[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tl-dr tl;dr]: copying stuff you didn't originally create and that isn't in the public domain is always a copyright violation. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the authors are completely anonymous, and my attempts to contact them hasn't seemed to work so far. If I attribute them with their key names and link back to the archive I got the content from, would that be fine? Or would it still be necessary to license the wiki under the GDFL? [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 01:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I believe that linking back to the archive and attributing the authors is enough, but as I'm not a lawyer, please don't quote me on this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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One last thing. If I want to disable account creation on a wiki, will I need to make it public or private? The pages for the two types didn't make it very clear. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 03:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Disabling account creation on a public wiki is relatively pointless, as anybody wanting to have an account could just go to another ShoutWiki-hosted wiki, create an account there and use it to edit (etc.) your wiki. A private wiki is better if you want to control who can read/edit your wiki. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==wikia monaco help pages transfered to shoutwiki==<br />
If I were to create an xml file of all of the redirected monaco help pages, [http://help.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20101001000000&limit=228&showall=0&contribs=user&target=Uberfuzzy] Once they are added here, I could revert the redirect.<br />
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Would you import them here? I can get all the images also. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:15, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:here is [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3MLj1JyAiwoZWY1YWZhMWEtNTFjYy00OWZmLWI3MWItMmQwYzIzNjk5NDFh&hl=en an xml file], with all of the redirected pages and full history of those pages. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::We won't be importing the old help pages used by Wikia, we'll instead write our own help pages as soon as time permits. Some of the images aren't necessary either (Wikia logo comes to mind) and I have the header button images on my laptop. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Caches ==<br />
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How often are Special Page caches (ex. Uncategorized pages, Wanted pages, Unused categorys) updated? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:As a bureaucrat, you can visit [[Special:RefreshSpecial]] on your wiki to update these special pages. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help ==<br />
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Help. I was wondering if you could help fix the problem at [http://wikicars.org/en/Main_Page Wikicars] or at least tell us what the problem is. The logo doesn't show up and the galleries are blank. Please don't you say it is not ShoutWiki. Wikicars is desperate. I beg you to at least help. (My account there is Silver Knight) --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 09:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, firstly...it's not a ShoutWiki wiki, so I have no obligation to help. There are better sources for general MediaWiki help, such as the MediaWiki-l mailing list, MediaWiki.org and the #MediaWiki IRC channel on irc.freenode.net.<br />
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:That being said, I did take a look at it. As soon as I enabled JS debug mode on my IE's developer tools and refreshed the page, the logo showed up and the JS error I saw previously was gone and I was unable to reproduce it.<br />
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:I'd suspect that a part of the problem is that the site is using a [http://wikicars.org/en/Special:Version horribly outdated version of MediaWiki], version 1.6.5, which was released back in 2006...it hasn't been supported for ages and probably has security vulnerabilities (among maaaaaaaany other bugs). [[mw:Version lifecycle|The version lifecycle page on MediaWiki.org]] states that the current, supported version of MediaWiki is 1.'''16'''; version 1.15 will reach its end-of-life in December 2010 and all older versions of MediaWiki are unsupported. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks! :-) Your a life saver. You don't need to go over and fix it, could you simply tell me how I could fix it? --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 03:28, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikicars wants to merge with Autopedia ==<br />
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[http://wikicars.org/en/User_talk:Red_marquis#Sh.2At Urgent message]. [http://wikicars.org Wikicars] wants to merge with [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com Autopedia]! Could you please import everything from there? Its got 6000 articles+ --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 04:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I believe that [[User:Misza|Misza]] is looking into this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::What! Please dont ignore this. Wikicars is a major wiki. Please do something about it!! Our user spent 3 years to build it! --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::You are not being ignored. Please realize that today is Christmas and tomorrow is [[wikipedia:St. Stephen's Day|St. Stephen's Day]]; many of [[ShoutWiki staff|us]] are taking these days off from work and spending time with family (and possibly friends) instead of watching what's going on in here; it's ''highly'' unlikely that the wiki will disappear from the internet before the next Monday. We understand how much the users' contributions mean to them and we respect them. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== MultipleUpload Error ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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Just thought I'd point this out, though I'm not sure what if anything could be done about it. I was attempting to use [[Special:MultipleUpload]] earlier today and encountered [http://jamahiriya.zxq.net/output.htm this] error. Pressing my back button and retrying succeeded.<br />
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Hope this helps somehow, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:That's a new one, haven't seen it before. Maybe you should report this bug on our [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ Bugzilla], it might be a good idea to take another look at the MultiUpload extension source code now that our [[technical staff]] is working on the 1.16 upgrade. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Will do; I encountered it a second time today, though it seemed to upload the images this time despite showing the error. Merry Christmas! <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Thank you; have a Merry Christmas, too! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Steward rights ==<br />
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On [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] my user account '''Knightrez''' is a steward. I changed my account name to '''Silver Knight'''. Could you please give me back steward rights and remove all Knightrez's three rights? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 11:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Silver Knight, I have given you the requested Steward rights. But, could you post here or on my talk page using the Knightrez account confirming you want the rights for that account removed? Thank you. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
--'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 01:06, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*and done, thanks... Merry Christmas. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 10:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks Jedi, you rock! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit counts==<br />
I have noticed that my edit count (the actual number that i can have on my profile) appears to be any and all edits I have made on Shoutwiki not specific to that wiki. Eg. i have almost 2000 edits on [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Stargate Wiki] and that number also shows up on [http://escyos.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Escyos wiki]. Is there any way to not have that or is that impossible. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 12:05, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:There are a few open bugs regarding the Editcount extension, see [[bz:87|bug #87]] and [[bz:93|bug #93]] on our [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ Bugzilla]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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ok cool, also could you enable the social tools on the Stargate wiki. thannks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 00:04, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've asked the techs to do that. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Images not loading ==<br />
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See http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/ECHL [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:45, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for your message Hockeyben. I've notified our technical team of the issue. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:55, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Lynton. Its occurring on more than one page.http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Hockeyben/Test_Page --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Misza appears to have fixed this. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Name changing ==<br />
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<s>Could you please change the name from [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] to Wikicars? This should help for importing --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 07:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)</s><br />
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:Hold that for a while, Red marquis whats to keep the name Autopedia --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Server error ==<br />
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There's something wrong with Autopedia. It's not opening. Knightrez has the same problem. I'm wondering if it might have to do with the importation. Is it finally taking place because Wikicars is also acting a bit weird. Suddenly everything is in dutch. <br />
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--[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] ([[User talk:Red marquis|talk]]) 16:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Maybe it was just a temporary glitch? Everything seems to be working now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just to let you know, we've been blocked at WIkicars with out rights stripped. What can you do for us now? :( --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 03:27, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::While that's unfortunate, I'm quite sure it won't slow us down. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Blocked ==<br />
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Sorry to tell you this... Me and Red marquis have been blocked at Wikicars along with our rights stripped... We're both counting on you & your staff to import everything from there. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 03:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Don't worry, [[User:Misza|Misza]] knows what he's doing. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::You sure? What is he currently doing? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 02:08, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Please do not think that you are being ignored, but this is not a task that can be completed easily. You do not have a dump of the wiki to be imported, meaning the process is complicated. As the wiki to be imported is using an extremely outdated version of the MediaWiki software, it is presenting numerous challenges. Misza is likely going to have to write a program to assist in the import process. All of this is going to take some time. Please understand that Misza is taking on this task in addition to his other responsibilities, and he cannot halt all of his other work to solely assist you with this. We would appreciate your patience in this regard. When Misza has updates for you, he will contact you. Thanks, — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:21, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I understand it will takes some time and I'll be patient :-) --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 02:35, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal ==<br />
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Hello, there is a user, first he was Terra584, now he is Terra585, i have banned both as his comments suggest he is planning to vandalise the Stargate Wiki. Is there anyway you could place a more permanent ban, say an IP range block on those he uses to stop him. Thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:44, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Also im pretty sure he is [[User:Jaymach|Jaymach]] just under a different name {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:49, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've blocked the IP used. It does not match Jaymach's IP. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:01, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Forum ==<br />
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Hello, Could you please activate the forums at [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]]? That be great, thanks! :-) --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 08:33, 31 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Could you also activate them on [http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off| Ice Hockey Wiki] ?--[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 16:03, 31 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've pinged Misza about these requests. In the future, it might be better to open up a bug on [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ our Bugzilla] to ensure that the requests will be tracked properly and that they won't be forgotten (because ''[[wikipedia:Errare humanum est|errare humanum est]]''). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::These requests have now been done. Enjoy! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:::If there done, how do I get the forums to work? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 09:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::::You might want to take a look at [[mw:Extension:DPLforum|the extension's page on MediaWiki.org]] and [[s:w:darth:Forum:Index|an example of the extension in use]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 17:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Vector and v1.16 of MediaWiki ==<br />
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Happy New Year. It seems the staff has a lot to do for 2011. <br />
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I was wondering if the Vector skin would be possible as the default skin for a wiki? I edit on several wiki farms. After all the craziness at Wikia and elsewhere I was hoping to edit on the latest plain-vanilla skin used by whatever version of MediaWiki was installed here. <br />
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I think in the long run many wikis may opt for this since it is easier for many editors, staff, many users passing by, and probably scales more easily, too. The official MediaWiki skins are tested fairly thoroughly too, I believe. Also, I read that the custom skins start varying more and more from the standard MediaWiki wikitext, and their wikitext becomes more incompatible over time. This can defeat the open standards ideal of wikis, and the sharing of info between wikis. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 16:34, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:There's always plenty of stuff to do, considering ShoutWiki's size and the amount of users using the site. :-)<br />
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:Our techs are working on 1.16 upgrade, it's a high-priority issue, but there are still some bugs to be addressed before we can deploy it on the live sites. When that's done and 1.16 is live, the Vector skin will be available. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Lag ==<br />
Recently the lag on this shoutwiki.com has been unbearable. Several times the site has gone down completely. I don't know if anyone is addressing this, but I just got an email from an influential member of our two communities posing the question whether we should move. Is this lag going to be addressed soon, and when? {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 17:04, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:The tech team is looking into improving the site performance. There shouldn't be any special reason for the slowness. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Chat box==<br />
RE: No, BlogArticles extension will not be available. Firstly, MediaWiki is a wiki software, not a blogging software. For real blogging functionality, we feel that you should use WordPress or some other dedicated blogging tool (it's what we do, too!). Wikis, however, have been using user subpages and their talk pages for things like essays, rants, and other things that reflect only the opinion of its author as opposed to the whole wiki community. <br />
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In my experience, the biggest feature which makes editors hesitant to leave wikia is the blog feature. No matter what you may think of wikia, they are great at marketing, and have put a lot of thought into this. <br />
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Okay, so you will not offer blogging, for several reasons. <br />
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Would you folks consider something even '''better''', which will make shoutwiki much more attractive than wikia? Currently you offer the shoutbox extension which is not very good. Instead, you can offer your communities '''http://chatango.com'''? It is an incredible chat box, the most powerful and innovative on the web. I really want shoutwiki to flourish and wikia to not. 17:14, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:As we discussed on [[Help:IRC|#ShoutWiki]], it's certainly an interesting idea and something to consider in the future. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:30, 1 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Load balancing worldwide with many wikis ==<br />
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Can ShoutWiki handle the load from all the wikis that are going to be added? I think more wikis will ask to be copied here, especially as people see Shoutwiki succeed with all the bandwidth increases. <br />
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I have read that big hosts like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com] can handle almost any bandwidth needs, and can instantly allocate bandwidth as needed. I believe they offer virtual servers that can do this. I see their multi-page ads in PC World magazines frequently. I do not understand these things, and thought I would mention it. You may know all this already. <br />
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I have learned one thing concrete though that may be relevant to ShoutWiki. I suggested a Russian-language cannabis site use 1and1.com when they got kicked off servers first in Russia, and then in Ukraine, due to government pressure on the hosts. They have since had no problems after moving their site (with the same domain name as before) to a big international hosting service (1and1.com). I was just guessing they would not be intimidated by any single country since they have servers in multiple countries. I also guessed that this is good for fast load times in spite of crossing national borders. Multiple servers in multiple nations can get around almost any blockage or problem, I assumed. I assume this ability might help an international wiki farm, too. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 17:51, 2 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Here are some direct links to virtual and dynamic cloud server info:<br />
:http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/Server;TCpfix141b <br />
:http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/CloudDynamicServer;TCpfix141b --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 19:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not that techy, despite being a MediaWiki developer; I'm sure that our [[technical staff|tech guys]] would know more about this than I do. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Import? ==<br />
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Hello, I don't really know if your staff member Misza is importing or not because he hasn't responded on his talk page and it is already 2011. Me, Red marquis and other admins are clueless about what your doing with the situation. I'd really like to know. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:48, 3 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Our first and foremost priority at the moment is improving site stability and response time. This is our highest priority at the moment and our techs are working hard to resolve those issues. Unfortunately, this means they have less time to work on a way to export your content and get it ready for importing. Once this problematic situation has been resolved, the imports will once again be our highest priority, along with the MW 1.16 upgrade. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Vector ==<br />
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Will the Vector skin be paid or free? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:56, 3 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:It will most likely be free. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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== Hi there ==<br />
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Hi there Jack Phoenix. My name is Shrev64. I am an active admin on the Sly Cooper Wiki (more commonly known as Slypedia). I got an email about the old monaco skin and how the wiki could get it back. It linked me to a blog post (the same link that is advertised at the top of every page). I click on the link, but it seems to be broken, as it will say the page is not available. Is there anything you can do about it? Thank you! [[Special:Contributions/174.23.149.168|174.23.149.168]] 01:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)Shrev64<br />
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:Hi Shrev64, let me begin by saying that the message which was sent out was neither endorsed nor approved by ShoutWiki. We have our suspicions about who did it, however.<br />
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:The reason why you saw the "page not available" message while trying to view our blog was that the server hosting blog (and a few other services) was temporarily down. It's back up, so you should be able to view it now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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::I got one of those emails too. It was actually quite flattering towards shoutwiki. I like to tell people that shoutwiki has monaco too! (I also steal away editors from the incomplete, uncanon, unrealinale Stargate Wikia!)<br />
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== Deletion wikis ==<br />
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3.[http://literature.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 古詩文學百科]<br />
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6.[http://official.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 官員百科]<br />
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7.[http://schoolpedia.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 學校維基館]<br />
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8.[http://taichangpedia.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 台中景點百科]<br />
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9.[http://formosapedia.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 福爾摩沙百科]<br />
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10.[http://yahooknowe.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 奇摩知識+共筆]<br />
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11.[http://booksearch.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 msnhinet8的書櫃資料查詢]<br />
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12.[http://zhtwauto.shoutwiki.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A0%81 中文汽車百科]<br />
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↑the wikis is deletion,thanks.<br />
*Happy new year and chinese new year!--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 06:33, 4 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:OK, I'll delete those wikis later today. Happy New Year to you too! :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3630User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-29T01:49:02Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
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what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
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great article. <br />
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You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
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http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
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[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Some extensions ==<br />
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Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
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:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
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Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
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I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
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Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
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Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
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::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
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::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nope! Check out our [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ Christmas-themed blog post] to find out more about Monaco! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::oh goody! I was planning to get monacco. Question: Does getting premium only work on one wiki or all whom i reign terror over....i mean admin over? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 23:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Currently we've been planning that a premium feature is a per-wiki thing; i.e. an admin pays for a premium skin (say, Monaco) and the skin is enabled for their wiki so everyone visiting the wiki as an anonymous user or opting in (by [[Special:Preferences|changing their preferences]]) will see that skin on that one wiki. However, as noted in many places earlier, very few details have actually been finalized and pretty much everything is still subject to change. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::cool, ok then. Also I seem to be having a difficulty having the sidebar display what i want it to (as seen [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar here]) it doesnt seem to want to display itself on the actual sidebar. perhaps a glitch? or am i missing something? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 00:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Monaco's stuff, such as sidebar and toolbox MediaWiki: messages, are cached for 4 hours. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::ah ok, thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 00:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::another annoying question, is the Monaci theme able to be set as the default for everyone unless they choose otherwise (such as anonymous users) or does the theme have to be chosen? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Yes, it's possible to set Monaco as the default skin of a wiki (see below for an example). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sapphire ==<br />
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How do I change the theme to Monaco sapphire on my wiki? [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:14, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:[[Customer Support Team#Contact us|Contact a member of the customer support team]] or file a bug [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ on our Bugzilla] by yourself; remember to mention the wiki's URL. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 02:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)\<br />
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OK, I would like to change the theme to Sapphire on http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This has been done now, enjoy! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Is there a cache for this? Because i'm still not seeing Sapphire. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not exactly sure. However, I just visited the Ice Hockey Wiki on my IE8's InPrivate mode and I saw Monaco as the default skin. You might wanna check your [[s:w:icehockey:MediaWiki:Monaco.css|local CSS overrides]] for the Monaco skin, too. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Im seeing Monaco, just not the Sapphire theme. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:If you take away the local customizations (MediaWiki:Monaco.css), what's left is the Sapphire theme; it's the default Monaco theme. Every page load with the Monaco skin loads a bunch of CSS files from http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/css/; these files serve as the base of the skin (in a similar manner to Monobook's main.css, except that main.css is one file that contains everything necessary, with the exception of browser-specific fixes and that Monaco doesn't have one main.css file, it has many files) and this base '''is''' the Sapphire theme.<br />
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:If you are using a custom theme, an additional CSS file (<nowiki>http://</nowiki>www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/<code>theme name here</code>/css/main.css) from the theme's css directory is loaded right after the core Monaco CSS files. Thus the theme CSS files are rather short; they don't have to duplicate much code, they can just override some previously set values and that's it. For example, the CSS file for the Romantic Pink Monaco theme (which is located at http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/pink/css/main.css) is only 60 lines long (and 11 of those are comment lines!). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
So just blank the Monaco.css page? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
I am now seeing Sapphire. Thanks for all your help. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 16:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Licensing Confusion ==<br />
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Hello. I'm planning to create a wiki that relies heavily on copying pages and images from another (now offline) site. It used a GFDL free license, and I'm not good at translating the legal babble on sites like those. You know like 10 languages, so I'm assuming you'd be able to tell me whether or not I'd be breaking the law by publishing the articles without proper credit or something like that. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 04:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The rule of thumb is: if it's copyrighted, you can't use it (without naming the authors etc. at least). And if it's not in the [[wikipedia:Public domain|public domain]], it's copyrighted.<br />
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:That being said, I'm not an expert on [[wikipedia:Legalese|Legalese]] in any language, although working with wikis has taught me a lot about all kinds of copyright issues and related things. I believe that in order to use GFDL-licensed content, you must:<br />
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:#Make a copy of the GDFL available on your wiki<br />
:#License your wiki under the GFDL (not too sure about this one)<br />
:#Attribute the authors of the copied content<br />
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:Regarding attribution, linking to the source wiki is obviously out of question if and when the said wiki is offline. Was the wiki a public one? If so, it might have been archived (to a degree) in the [http://archive.org/ Internet Archive]; you can use the Wayback Machine to see what a given site looked like in the past. It might be a possibility to link to the archived version, if the wiki can be found in the archive. If not, maybe you could make a template like [[s:w:commandos:Template:Wikipedia]], stating something like "This page uses material from X wiki, which is released under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). As such, this page and all subsequent edits to it are considered to be released under the GFDL too."<br />
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:[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tl-dr tl;dr]: copying stuff you didn't originally create and that isn't in the public domain is always a copyright violation. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the authors are completely anonymous, and my attempts to contact them hasn't seemed to work so far. If I attribute them with their key names and link back to the archive I got the content from, would that be fine? Or would it still be necessary to license the wiki under the GDFL? [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 01:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I believe that linking back to the archive and attributing the authors is enough, but as I'm not a lawyer, please don't quote me on this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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One last thing. If I want to disable account creation on a wiki, will I need to make it public or private? The pages for the two types didn't make it very clear. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 03:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Disabling account creation on a public wiki is relatively pointless, as anybody wanting to have an account could just go to another ShoutWiki-hosted wiki, create an account there and use it to edit (etc.) your wiki. A private wiki is better if you want to control who can read/edit your wiki. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==wikia monaco help pages transfered to shoutwiki==<br />
If I were to create an xml file of all of the redirected monaco help pages, [http://help.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20101001000000&limit=228&showall=0&contribs=user&target=Uberfuzzy] Once they are added here, I could revert the redirect.<br />
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Would you import them here? I can get all the images also. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:15, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:here is [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3MLj1JyAiwoZWY1YWZhMWEtNTFjYy00OWZmLWI3MWItMmQwYzIzNjk5NDFh&hl=en an xml file], with all of the redirected pages and full history of those pages. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::We won't be importing the old help pages used by Wikia, we'll instead write our own help pages as soon as time permits. Some of the images aren't necessary either (Wikia logo comes to mind) and I have the header button images on my laptop. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Caches ==<br />
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How often are Special Page caches (ex. Uncategorized pages, Wanted pages, Unused categorys) updated? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:As a bureaucrat, you can visit [[Special:RefreshSpecial]] on your wiki to update these special pages. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help ==<br />
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Help. I was wondering if you could help fix the problem at [http://wikicars.org/en/Main_Page Wikicars] or at least tell us what the problem is. The logo doesn't show up and the galleries are blank. Please don't you say it is not ShoutWiki. Wikicars is desperate. I beg you to at least help. (My account there is Silver Knight) --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 09:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, firstly...it's not a ShoutWiki wiki, so I have no obligation to help. There are better sources for general MediaWiki help, such as the MediaWiki-l mailing list, MediaWiki.org and the #MediaWiki IRC channel on irc.freenode.net.<br />
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:That being said, I did take a look at it. As soon as I enabled JS debug mode on my IE's developer tools and refreshed the page, the logo showed up and the JS error I saw previously was gone and I was unable to reproduce it.<br />
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:I'd suspect that a part of the problem is that the site is using a [http://wikicars.org/en/Special:Version horribly outdated version of MediaWiki], version 1.6.5, which was released back in 2006...it hasn't been supported for ages and probably has security vulnerabilities (among maaaaaaaany other bugs). [[mw:Version lifecycle|The version lifecycle page on MediaWiki.org]] states that the current, supported version of MediaWiki is 1.'''16'''; version 1.15 will reach its end-of-life in December 2010 and all older versions of MediaWiki are unsupported. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks! :-) Your a life saver. You don't need to go over and fix it, could you simply tell me how I could fix it? --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 03:28, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikicars wants to merge with Autopedia ==<br />
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[http://wikicars.org/en/User_talk:Red_marquis#Sh.2At Urgent message]. [http://wikicars.org Wikicars] wants to merge with [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com Autopedia]! Could you please import everything from there? Its got 6000 articles+ --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 04:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I believe that [[User:Misza|Misza]] is looking into this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::What! Please dont ignore this. Wikicars is a major wiki. Please do something about it!! Our user spent 3 years to build it! --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::You are not being ignored. Please realize that today is Christmas and tomorrow is [[wikipedia:St. Stephen's Day|St. Stephen's Day]]; many of [[ShoutWiki staff|us]] are taking these days off from work and spending time with family (and possibly friends) instead of watching what's going on in here; it's ''highly'' unlikely that the wiki will disappear from the internet before the next Monday. We understand how much the users' contributions mean to them and we respect them. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== MultipleUpload Error ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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Just thought I'd point this out, though I'm not sure what if anything could be done about it. I was attempting to use [[Special:MultipleUpload]] earlier today and encountered [http://jamahiriya.zxq.net/output.htm this] error. Pressing my back button and retrying succeeded.<br />
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Hope this helps somehow, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:That's a new one, haven't seen it before. Maybe you should report this bug on our [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ Bugzilla], it might be a good idea to take another look at the MultiUpload extension source code now that our [[technical staff]] is working on the 1.16 upgrade. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Will do; I encountered it a second time today, though it seemed to upload the images this time despite showing the error. Merry Christmas! <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Thank you; have a Merry Christmas, too! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Steward rights ==<br />
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On [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] my user account '''Knightrez''' is a steward. I changed my account name to '''Silver Knight'''. Could you please give me back steward rights and remove all Knightrez's three rights? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 11:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Silver Knight, I have given you the requested Steward rights. But, could you post here or on my talk page using the Knightrez account confirming you want the rights for that account removed? Thank you. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
--'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 01:06, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*and done, thanks... Merry Christmas. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 10:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks Jedi, you rock! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit counts==<br />
I have noticed that my edit count (the actual number that i can have on my profile) appears to be any and all edits I have made on Shoutwiki not specific to that wiki. Eg. i have almost 2000 edits on [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Stargate Wiki] and that number also shows up on [http://escyos.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Escyos wiki]. Is there any way to not have that or is that impossible. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 12:05, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:There are a few open bugs regarding the Editcount extension, see [[bz:87|bug #87]] and [[bz:93|bug #93]] on our [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ Bugzilla]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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ok cool, also could you enable the social tools on the Stargate wiki. thannks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 00:04, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've asked the techs to do that. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Images not loading ==<br />
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See http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/ECHL [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:45, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for your message Hockeyben. I've notified our technical team of the issue. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:55, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Lynton. Its occurring on more than one page.http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Hockeyben/Test_Page --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Misza appears to have fixed this. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Name changing ==<br />
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<s>Could you please change the name from [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] to Wikicars? This should help for importing --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 07:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)</s><br />
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:Hold that for a while, Red marquis whats to keep the name Autopedia --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Server error ==<br />
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There's something wrong with Autopedia. It's not opening. Knightrez has the same problem. I'm wondering if it might have to do with the importation. Is it finally taking place because Wikicars is also acting a bit weird. Suddenly everything is in dutch. <br />
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--[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] ([[User talk:Red marquis|talk]]) 16:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Maybe it was just a temporary glitch? Everything seems to be working now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just to let you know, we've been blocked at WIkicars with out rights stripped. What can you do for us now? :( --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 03:27, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::While that's unfortunate, I'm quite sure it won't slow us down. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Blocked ==<br />
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Sorry to tell you this... Me and Red marquis have been blocked at Wikicars along with our rights stripped... We're both counting on you & your staff to import everything from there. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 03:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Don't worry, [[User:Misza|Misza]] knows what he's doing. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal ==<br />
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Hello, there is a user, first he was Terra584, now he is Terra585, i have banned both as his comments suggest he is planning to vandalise the Stargate Wiki. Is there anyway you could place a more permanent ban, say an IP range block on those he uses to stop him. Thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:44, 29 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Also im pretty sure he is [[User:Jaymach|Jaymach]] just under a different name {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:49, 29 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3629User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-29T01:44:35Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>{{User talk:Jack Phoenix/header}}<br />
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
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what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
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great article. <br />
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You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
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http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
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[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Some extensions ==<br />
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Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
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:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
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Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
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I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
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Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
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Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
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::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
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::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nope! Check out our [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ Christmas-themed blog post] to find out more about Monaco! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::oh goody! I was planning to get monacco. Question: Does getting premium only work on one wiki or all whom i reign terror over....i mean admin over? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 23:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Currently we've been planning that a premium feature is a per-wiki thing; i.e. an admin pays for a premium skin (say, Monaco) and the skin is enabled for their wiki so everyone visiting the wiki as an anonymous user or opting in (by [[Special:Preferences|changing their preferences]]) will see that skin on that one wiki. However, as noted in many places earlier, very few details have actually been finalized and pretty much everything is still subject to change. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::cool, ok then. Also I seem to be having a difficulty having the sidebar display what i want it to (as seen [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar here]) it doesnt seem to want to display itself on the actual sidebar. perhaps a glitch? or am i missing something? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 00:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Monaco's stuff, such as sidebar and toolbox MediaWiki: messages, are cached for 4 hours. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::ah ok, thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 00:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::another annoying question, is the Monaci theme able to be set as the default for everyone unless they choose otherwise (such as anonymous users) or does the theme have to be chosen? {{User:Escyos/sig}} 04:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Yes, it's possible to set Monaco as the default skin of a wiki (see below for an example). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sapphire ==<br />
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How do I change the theme to Monaco sapphire on my wiki? [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:14, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:[[Customer Support Team#Contact us|Contact a member of the customer support team]] or file a bug [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ on our Bugzilla] by yourself; remember to mention the wiki's URL. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 02:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)\<br />
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OK, I would like to change the theme to Sapphire on http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This has been done now, enjoy! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Is there a cache for this? Because i'm still not seeing Sapphire. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not exactly sure. However, I just visited the Ice Hockey Wiki on my IE8's InPrivate mode and I saw Monaco as the default skin. You might wanna check your [[s:w:icehockey:MediaWiki:Monaco.css|local CSS overrides]] for the Monaco skin, too. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Im seeing Monaco, just not the Sapphire theme. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:If you take away the local customizations (MediaWiki:Monaco.css), what's left is the Sapphire theme; it's the default Monaco theme. Every page load with the Monaco skin loads a bunch of CSS files from http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/css/; these files serve as the base of the skin (in a similar manner to Monobook's main.css, except that main.css is one file that contains everything necessary, with the exception of browser-specific fixes and that Monaco doesn't have one main.css file, it has many files) and this base '''is''' the Sapphire theme.<br />
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:If you are using a custom theme, an additional CSS file (<nowiki>http://</nowiki>www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/<code>theme name here</code>/css/main.css) from the theme's css directory is loaded right after the core Monaco CSS files. Thus the theme CSS files are rather short; they don't have to duplicate much code, they can just override some previously set values and that's it. For example, the CSS file for the Romantic Pink Monaco theme (which is located at http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/pink/css/main.css) is only 60 lines long (and 11 of those are comment lines!). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
So just blank the Monaco.css page? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
I am now seeing Sapphire. Thanks for all your help. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 16:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Licensing Confusion ==<br />
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Hello. I'm planning to create a wiki that relies heavily on copying pages and images from another (now offline) site. It used a GFDL free license, and I'm not good at translating the legal babble on sites like those. You know like 10 languages, so I'm assuming you'd be able to tell me whether or not I'd be breaking the law by publishing the articles without proper credit or something like that. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 04:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The rule of thumb is: if it's copyrighted, you can't use it (without naming the authors etc. at least). And if it's not in the [[wikipedia:Public domain|public domain]], it's copyrighted.<br />
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:That being said, I'm not an expert on [[wikipedia:Legalese|Legalese]] in any language, although working with wikis has taught me a lot about all kinds of copyright issues and related things. I believe that in order to use GFDL-licensed content, you must:<br />
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:#Make a copy of the GDFL available on your wiki<br />
:#License your wiki under the GFDL (not too sure about this one)<br />
:#Attribute the authors of the copied content<br />
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:Regarding attribution, linking to the source wiki is obviously out of question if and when the said wiki is offline. Was the wiki a public one? If so, it might have been archived (to a degree) in the [http://archive.org/ Internet Archive]; you can use the Wayback Machine to see what a given site looked like in the past. It might be a possibility to link to the archived version, if the wiki can be found in the archive. If not, maybe you could make a template like [[s:w:commandos:Template:Wikipedia]], stating something like "This page uses material from X wiki, which is released under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). As such, this page and all subsequent edits to it are considered to be released under the GFDL too."<br />
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:[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tl-dr tl;dr]: copying stuff you didn't originally create and that isn't in the public domain is always a copyright violation. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the authors are completely anonymous, and my attempts to contact them hasn't seemed to work so far. If I attribute them with their key names and link back to the archive I got the content from, would that be fine? Or would it still be necessary to license the wiki under the GDFL? [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 01:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I believe that linking back to the archive and attributing the authors is enough, but as I'm not a lawyer, please don't quote me on this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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One last thing. If I want to disable account creation on a wiki, will I need to make it public or private? The pages for the two types didn't make it very clear. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 03:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Disabling account creation on a public wiki is relatively pointless, as anybody wanting to have an account could just go to another ShoutWiki-hosted wiki, create an account there and use it to edit (etc.) your wiki. A private wiki is better if you want to control who can read/edit your wiki. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==wikia monaco help pages transfered to shoutwiki==<br />
If I were to create an xml file of all of the redirected monaco help pages, [http://help.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20101001000000&limit=228&showall=0&contribs=user&target=Uberfuzzy] Once they are added here, I could revert the redirect.<br />
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Would you import them here? I can get all the images also. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:15, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:here is [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3MLj1JyAiwoZWY1YWZhMWEtNTFjYy00OWZmLWI3MWItMmQwYzIzNjk5NDFh&hl=en an xml file], with all of the redirected pages and full history of those pages. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::We won't be importing the old help pages used by Wikia, we'll instead write our own help pages as soon as time permits. Some of the images aren't necessary either (Wikia logo comes to mind) and I have the header button images on my laptop. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Caches ==<br />
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How often are Special Page caches (ex. Uncategorized pages, Wanted pages, Unused categorys) updated? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:As a bureaucrat, you can visit [[Special:RefreshSpecial]] on your wiki to update these special pages. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help ==<br />
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Help. I was wondering if you could help fix the problem at [http://wikicars.org/en/Main_Page Wikicars] or at least tell us what the problem is. The logo doesn't show up and the galleries are blank. Please don't you say it is not ShoutWiki. Wikicars is desperate. I beg you to at least help. (My account there is Silver Knight) --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 09:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, firstly...it's not a ShoutWiki wiki, so I have no obligation to help. There are better sources for general MediaWiki help, such as the MediaWiki-l mailing list, MediaWiki.org and the #MediaWiki IRC channel on irc.freenode.net.<br />
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:That being said, I did take a look at it. As soon as I enabled JS debug mode on my IE's developer tools and refreshed the page, the logo showed up and the JS error I saw previously was gone and I was unable to reproduce it.<br />
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:I'd suspect that a part of the problem is that the site is using a [http://wikicars.org/en/Special:Version horribly outdated version of MediaWiki], version 1.6.5, which was released back in 2006...it hasn't been supported for ages and probably has security vulnerabilities (among maaaaaaaany other bugs). [[mw:Version lifecycle|The version lifecycle page on MediaWiki.org]] states that the current, supported version of MediaWiki is 1.'''16'''; version 1.15 will reach its end-of-life in December 2010 and all older versions of MediaWiki are unsupported. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks! :-) Your a life saver. You don't need to go over and fix it, could you simply tell me how I could fix it? --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 03:28, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikicars wants to merge with Autopedia ==<br />
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[http://wikicars.org/en/User_talk:Red_marquis#Sh.2At Urgent message]. [http://wikicars.org Wikicars] wants to merge with [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com Autopedia]! Could you please import everything from there? Its got 6000 articles+ --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 04:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I believe that [[User:Misza|Misza]] is looking into this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::What! Please dont ignore this. Wikicars is a major wiki. Please do something about it!! Our user spent 3 years to build it! --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::You are not being ignored. Please realize that today is Christmas and tomorrow is [[wikipedia:St. Stephen's Day|St. Stephen's Day]]; many of [[ShoutWiki staff|us]] are taking these days off from work and spending time with family (and possibly friends) instead of watching what's going on in here; it's ''highly'' unlikely that the wiki will disappear from the internet before the next Monday. We understand how much the users' contributions mean to them and we respect them. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== MultipleUpload Error ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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Just thought I'd point this out, though I'm not sure what if anything could be done about it. I was attempting to use [[Special:MultipleUpload]] earlier today and encountered [http://jamahiriya.zxq.net/output.htm this] error. Pressing my back button and retrying succeeded.<br />
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Hope this helps somehow, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:That's a new one, haven't seen it before. Maybe you should report this bug on our [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ Bugzilla], it might be a good idea to take another look at the MultiUpload extension source code now that our [[technical staff]] is working on the 1.16 upgrade. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Will do; I encountered it a second time today, though it seemed to upload the images this time despite showing the error. Merry Christmas! <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Thank you; have a Merry Christmas, too! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Steward rights ==<br />
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On [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] my user account '''Knightrez''' is a steward. I changed my account name to '''Silver Knight'''. Could you please give me back steward rights and remove all Knightrez's three rights? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 11:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Silver Knight, I have given you the requested Steward rights. But, could you post here or on my talk page using the Knightrez account confirming you want the rights for that account removed? Thank you. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
--'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 01:06, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*and done, thanks... Merry Christmas. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 10:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks Jedi, you rock! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit counts==<br />
I have noticed that my edit count (the actual number that i can have on my profile) appears to be any and all edits I have made on Shoutwiki not specific to that wiki. Eg. i have almost 2000 edits on [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Stargate Wiki] and that number also shows up on [http://escyos.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Escyos wiki]. Is there any way to not have that or is that impossible. {{User:Escyos/sig}} 12:05, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:There are a few open bugs regarding the Editcount extension, see [[bz:87|bug #87]] and [[bz:93|bug #93]] on our [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ Bugzilla]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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ok cool, also could you enable the social tools on the Stargate wiki. thannks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 00:04, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I've asked the techs to do that. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Images not loading ==<br />
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See http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/ECHL [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:45, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for your message Hockeyben. I've notified our technical team of the issue. — [[User:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">Lynton</span>]]<staff /> <sup>[[User talk:Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Lynton|<span style="color:#002bb8">email</span>]]</sup> 02:55, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks Lynton. Its occurring on more than one page.http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Hockeyben/Test_Page --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Misza appears to have fixed this. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Name changing ==<br />
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<s>Could you please change the name from [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] to Wikicars? This should help for importing --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 07:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)</s><br />
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:Hold that for a while, Red marquis whats to keep the name Autopedia --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 10:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Server error ==<br />
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There's something wrong with Autopedia. It's not opening. Knightrez has the same problem. I'm wondering if it might have to do with the importation. Is it finally taking place because Wikicars is also acting a bit weird. Suddenly everything is in dutch. <br />
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--[[User:Red marquis|Red marquis]] ([[User talk:Red marquis|talk]]) 16:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Maybe it was just a temporary glitch? Everything seems to be working now. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just to let you know, we've been blocked at WIkicars with out rights stripped. What can you do for us now? :( --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 03:27, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::While that's unfortunate, I'm quite sure it won't slow us down. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Blocked ==<br />
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Sorry to tell you this... Me and Red marquis have been blocked at Wikicars along with our rights stripped... We're both counting on you & your staff to import everything from there. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 03:45, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Don't worry, [[User:Misza|Misza]] knows what he's doing. :-) --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Vandal ==<br />
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Hello, there is a user, first he was Terra584, now he is Terra585, i have banned both as his comments suggest he is planning to vandalise the Stargate Wiki. Is there anyway you could place a more permanent ban, say an IP range block on those he uses to stop him. Thanks {{User:Escyos/sig}} 01:44, 29 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Escyos&diff=3599User talk:Escyos2010-12-28T07:56:02Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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== Wikicars wants to merge with Autopedia ==<br />
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[http://wikicars.org/en/User_talk:Red_marquis#Sh.2At Urgent message]. [http://wikicars.org Wikicars] wants to merge with [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com Autopedia]! --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 04:40, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== RE:Blocked ==<br />
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Yes I was blocked. Apparently they are as*holes. --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 07:41, 28 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Thats Wikia for ya! {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 07:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3550User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-26T00:04:43Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
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what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
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great article. <br />
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You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
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http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
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[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Some extensions ==<br />
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Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
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:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
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Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
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I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
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Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
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Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
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::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
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::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nope! Check out our [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ Christmas-themed blog post] to find out more about Monaco! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::oh goody! I was planning to get monacco. Question: Does getting premium only work on one wiki or all whom i reign terror over....i mean admin over? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 23:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Currently we've been planning that a premium feature is a per-wiki thing; i.e. an admin pays for a premium skin (say, Monaco) and the skin is enabled for their wiki so everyone visiting the wiki as an anonymous user or opting in (by [[Special:Preferences|changing their preferences]]) will see that skin on that one wiki. However, as noted in many places earlier, very few details have actually been finalized and pretty much everything is still subject to change. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::cool, ok then. Also I seem to be having a difficulty having the sidebar display what i want it to (as seen [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar here]) it doesnt seem to want to display itself on the actual sidebar. perhaps a glitch? or am i missing something? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Monaco's stuff, such as sidebar and toolbox MediaWiki: messages, are cached for 4 hours. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::ah ok, thanks {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::another annoying question, is the Monaci theme able to be set as the default for everyone unless they choose otherwise (such as anonymous users) or does the theme have to be chosen? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Yes, it's possible to set Monaco as the default skin of a wiki (see below for an example). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sapphire ==<br />
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How do I change the theme to Monaco sapphire on my wiki? [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:14, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:[[Customer Support Team#Contact us|Contact a member of the customer support team]] or file a bug [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ on our Bugzilla] by yourself; remember to mention the wiki's URL. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 02:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)\<br />
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OK, I would like to change the theme to Sapphire on http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This has been done now, enjoy! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Is there a cache for this? Because i'm still not seeing Sapphire. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not exactly sure. However, I just visited the Ice Hockey Wiki on my IE8's InPrivate mode and I saw Monaco as the default skin. You might wanna check your [[s:w:icehockey:MediaWiki:Monaco.css|local CSS overrides]] for the Monaco skin, too. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Im seeing Monaco, just not the Sapphire theme. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:If you take away the local customizations (MediaWiki:Monaco.css), what's left is the Sapphire theme; it's the default Monaco theme. Every page load with the Monaco skin loads a bunch of CSS files from http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/css/; these files serve as the base of the skin (in a similar manner to Monobook's main.css, except that main.css is one file that contains everything necessary, with the exception of browser-specific fixes and that Monaco doesn't have one main.css file, it has many files) and this base '''is''' the Sapphire theme.<br />
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:If you are using a custom theme, an additional CSS file (<nowiki>http://</nowiki>www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/<code>theme name here</code>/css/main.css) from the theme's css directory is loaded right after the core Monaco CSS files. Thus the theme CSS files are rather short; they don't have to duplicate much code, they can just override some previously set values and that's it. For example, the CSS file for the Romantic Pink Monaco theme (which is located at http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/pink/css/main.css) is only 60 lines long (and 11 of those are comment lines!). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
So just blank the Monaco.css page? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
I am now seeing Sapphire. Thanks for all your help. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 16:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Licensing Confusion ==<br />
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Hello. I'm planning to create a wiki that relies heavily on copying pages and images from another (now offline) site. It used a GFDL free license, and I'm not good at translating the legal babble on sites like those. You know like 10 languages, so I'm assuming you'd be able to tell me whether or not I'd be breaking the law by publishing the articles without proper credit or something like that. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 04:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The rule of thumb is: if it's copyrighted, you can't use it (without naming the authors etc. at least). And if it's not in the [[wikipedia:Public domain|public domain]], it's copyrighted.<br />
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:That being said, I'm not an expert on [[wikipedia:Legalese|Legalese]] in any language, although working with wikis has taught me a lot about all kinds of copyright issues and related things. I believe that in order to use GFDL-licensed content, you must:<br />
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:#Make a copy of the GDFL available on your wiki<br />
:#License your wiki under the GFDL (not too sure about this one)<br />
:#Attribute the authors of the copied content<br />
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:Regarding attribution, linking to the source wiki is obviously out of question if and when the said wiki is offline. Was the wiki a public one? If so, it might have been archived (to a degree) in the [http://archive.org/ Internet Archive]; you can use the Wayback Machine to see what a given site looked like in the past. It might be a possibility to link to the archived version, if the wiki can be found in the archive. If not, maybe you could make a template like [[s:w:commandos:Template:Wikipedia]], stating something like "This page uses material from X wiki, which is released under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). As such, this page and all subsequent edits to it are considered to be released under the GFDL too."<br />
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:[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tl-dr tl;dr]: copying stuff you didn't originally create and that isn't in the public domain is always a copyright violation. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the authors are completely anonymous, and my attempts to contact them hasn't seemed to work so far. If I attribute them with their key names and link back to the archive I got the content from, would that be fine? Or would it still be necessary to license the wiki under the GDFL? [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 01:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I believe that linking back to the archive and attributing the authors is enough, but as I'm not a lawyer, please don't quote me on this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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One last thing. If I want to disable account creation on a wiki, will I need to make it public or private? The pages for the two types didn't make it very clear. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 03:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Disabling account creation on a public wiki is relatively pointless, as anybody wanting to have an account could just go to another ShoutWiki-hosted wiki, create an account there and use it to edit (etc.) your wiki. A private wiki is better if you want to control who can read/edit your wiki. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==wikia monaco help pages transfered to shoutwiki==<br />
If I were to create an xml file of all of the redirected monaco help pages, [http://help.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20101001000000&limit=228&showall=0&contribs=user&target=Uberfuzzy] Once they are added here, I could revert the redirect.<br />
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Would you import them here? I can get all the images also. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:15, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:here is [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3MLj1JyAiwoZWY1YWZhMWEtNTFjYy00OWZmLWI3MWItMmQwYzIzNjk5NDFh&hl=en an xml file], with all of the redirected pages and full history of those pages. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::We won't be importing the old help pages used by Wikia, we'll instead write our own help pages as soon as time permits. Some of the images aren't necessary either (Wikia logo comes to mind) and I have the header button images on my laptop. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Caches ==<br />
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How often are Special Page caches (ex. Uncategorized pages, Wanted pages, Unused categorys) updated? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:As a bureaucrat, you can visit [[Special:RefreshSpecial]] on your wiki to update these special pages. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help ==<br />
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Help. I was wondering if you could help fix the problem at [http://wikicars.org/en/Main_Page Wikicars] or at least tell us what the problem is. The logo doesn't show up and the galleries are blank. Please don't you say it is not ShoutWiki. Wikicars is desperate. I beg you to at least help. (My account there is Silver Knight) --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 09:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, firstly...it's not a ShoutWiki wiki, so I have no obligation to help. There are better sources for general MediaWiki help, such as the MediaWiki-l mailing list, MediaWiki.org and the #MediaWiki IRC channel on irc.freenode.net.<br />
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:That being said, I did take a look at it. As soon as I enabled JS debug mode on my IE's developer tools and refreshed the page, the logo showed up and the JS error I saw previously was gone and I was unable to reproduce it.<br />
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:I'd suspect that a part of the problem is that the site is using a [http://wikicars.org/en/Special:Version horribly outdated version of MediaWiki], version 1.6.5, which was released back in 2006...it hasn't been supported for ages and probably has security vulnerabilities (among maaaaaaaany other bugs). [[mw:Version lifecycle|The version lifecycle page on MediaWiki.org]] states that the current, supported version of MediaWiki is 1.'''16'''; version 1.15 will reach its end-of-life in December 2010 and all older versions of MediaWiki are unsupported. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks! :-) Your a life saver. You don't need to go over and fix it, could you simply tell me how I could fix it? --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 03:28, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikicars wants to merge with Autopedia ==<br />
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[http://wikicars.org/en/User_talk:Red_marquis#Sh.2At Urgent message]. [http://wikicars.org Wikicars] wants to merge with [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com Autopedia]! Could you please import everything from there? Its got 6000 articles+ --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 04:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I believe that [[User:Misza|Misza]] is looking into this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::What! Please dont ignore this. Wikicars is a major wiki. Please do something about it!! Our user spent 3 years to build it! --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 13:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::You are not being ignored. Please realize that today is Christmas and tomorrow is [[wikipedia:St. Stephen's Day|St. Stephen's Day]]; many of [[ShoutWiki staff|us]] are taking these days off from work and spending time with family (and possibly friends) instead of watching what's going on in here; it's ''highly'' unlikely that the wiki will disappear from the internet before the next Monday. We understand how much the users' contributions mean to them and we respect them. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== MultipleUpload Error ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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Just thought I'd point this out, though I'm not sure what if anything could be done about it. I was attempting to use [[Special:MultipleUpload]] earlier today and encountered [http://jamahiriya.zxq.net/output.htm this] error. Pressing my back button and retrying succeeded.<br />
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Hope this helps somehow, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:That's a new one, haven't seen it before. Maybe you should report this bug on our [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ Bugzilla], it might be a good idea to take another look at the MultiUpload extension source code now that our [[technical staff]] is working on the 1.16 upgrade. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Will do; I encountered it a second time today, though it seemed to upload the images this time despite showing the error. Merry Christmas! <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Thank you; have a Merry Christmas, too! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Steward rights ==<br />
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On [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] my user account '''Knightrez''' is a steward. I changed my account name to '''Silver Knight'''. Could you please give me back steward rights and remove all Knightrez's three rights? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 11:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Silver Knight, I have given you the requested Steward rights. But, could you post here or on my talk page using the Knightrez account confirming you want the rights for that account removed? Thank you. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
--'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 01:06, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*and done, thanks... Merry Christmas. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 10:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks Jedi, you rock! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit counts==<br />
I have noticed that my edit count (the actual number that i can have on my profile) appears to be any and all edits I have made on Shoutwiki not specific to that wiki. Eg. i have almost 2000 edits on [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Stargate Wiki] and that number also shows up on [http://escyos.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Escyos wiki]. Is there any way to not have that or is that impossible. {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 12:05, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:There are a few open bugs regarding the Editcount extension, see [[bz:87|bug #87]] and [[bz:93|bug #93]] on our [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ Bugzilla]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 12:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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ok cool, also could you enable the social tools on the Stargate wiki. thannks {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:04, 26 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3536User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-25T12:05:11Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
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what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
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great article. <br />
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You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
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http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
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[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Some extensions ==<br />
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Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
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:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
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Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
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I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
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Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
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Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
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::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
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::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nope! Check out our [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ Christmas-themed blog post] to find out more about Monaco! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::oh goody! I was planning to get monacco. Question: Does getting premium only work on one wiki or all whom i reign terror over....i mean admin over? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 23:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Currently we've been planning that a premium feature is a per-wiki thing; i.e. an admin pays for a premium skin (say, Monaco) and the skin is enabled for their wiki so everyone visiting the wiki as an anonymous user or opting in (by [[Special:Preferences|changing their preferences]]) will see that skin on that one wiki. However, as noted in many places earlier, very few details have actually been finalized and pretty much everything is still subject to change. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::cool, ok then. Also I seem to be having a difficulty having the sidebar display what i want it to (as seen [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar here]) it doesnt seem to want to display itself on the actual sidebar. perhaps a glitch? or am i missing something? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Monaco's stuff, such as sidebar and toolbox MediaWiki: messages, are cached for 4 hours. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::ah ok, thanks {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::another annoying question, is the Monaci theme able to be set as the default for everyone unless they choose otherwise (such as anonymous users) or does the theme have to be chosen? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::::Yes, it's possible to set Monaco as the default skin of a wiki (see below for an example). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sapphire ==<br />
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How do I change the theme to Monaco sapphire on my wiki? [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:14, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:[[Customer Support Team#Contact us|Contact a member of the customer support team]] or file a bug [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ on our Bugzilla] by yourself; remember to mention the wiki's URL. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 02:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)\<br />
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OK, I would like to change the theme to Sapphire on http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Face_Off. Thanks --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This has been done now, enjoy! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 22:59, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Is there a cache for this? Because i'm still not seeing Sapphire. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 23:45, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm not exactly sure. However, I just visited the Ice Hockey Wiki on my IE8's InPrivate mode and I saw Monaco as the default skin. You might wanna check your [[s:w:icehockey:MediaWiki:Monaco.css|local CSS overrides]] for the Monaco skin, too. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Im seeing Monaco, just not the Sapphire theme. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 00:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:If you take away the local customizations (MediaWiki:Monaco.css), what's left is the Sapphire theme; it's the default Monaco theme. Every page load with the Monaco skin loads a bunch of CSS files from http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/css/; these files serve as the base of the skin (in a similar manner to Monobook's main.css, except that main.css is one file that contains everything necessary, with the exception of browser-specific fixes and that Monaco doesn't have one main.css file, it has many files) and this base '''is''' the Sapphire theme.<br />
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:If you are using a custom theme, an additional CSS file (<nowiki>http://</nowiki>www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/<code>theme name here</code>/css/main.css) from the theme's css directory is loaded right after the core Monaco CSS files. Thus the theme CSS files are rather short; they don't have to duplicate much code, they can just override some previously set values and that's it. For example, the CSS file for the Romantic Pink Monaco theme (which is located at http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/skins/monaco/pink/css/main.css) is only 60 lines long (and 11 of those are comment lines!). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
So just blank the Monaco.css page? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
I am now seeing Sapphire. Thanks for all your help. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 16:41, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Licensing Confusion ==<br />
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Hello. I'm planning to create a wiki that relies heavily on copying pages and images from another (now offline) site. It used a GFDL free license, and I'm not good at translating the legal babble on sites like those. You know like 10 languages, so I'm assuming you'd be able to tell me whether or not I'd be breaking the law by publishing the articles without proper credit or something like that. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 04:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The rule of thumb is: if it's copyrighted, you can't use it (without naming the authors etc. at least). And if it's not in the [[wikipedia:Public domain|public domain]], it's copyrighted.<br />
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:That being said, I'm not an expert on [[wikipedia:Legalese|Legalese]] in any language, although working with wikis has taught me a lot about all kinds of copyright issues and related things. I believe that in order to use GFDL-licensed content, you must:<br />
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:#Make a copy of the GDFL available on your wiki<br />
:#License your wiki under the GFDL (not too sure about this one)<br />
:#Attribute the authors of the copied content<br />
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:Regarding attribution, linking to the source wiki is obviously out of question if and when the said wiki is offline. Was the wiki a public one? If so, it might have been archived (to a degree) in the [http://archive.org/ Internet Archive]; you can use the Wayback Machine to see what a given site looked like in the past. It might be a possibility to link to the archived version, if the wiki can be found in the archive. If not, maybe you could make a template like [[s:w:commandos:Template:Wikipedia]], stating something like "This page uses material from X wiki, which is released under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). As such, this page and all subsequent edits to it are considered to be released under the GFDL too."<br />
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:[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tl-dr tl;dr]: copying stuff you didn't originally create and that isn't in the public domain is always a copyright violation. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
::Well, the authors are completely anonymous, and my attempts to contact them hasn't seemed to work so far. If I attribute them with their key names and link back to the archive I got the content from, would that be fine? Or would it still be necessary to license the wiki under the GDFL? [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 01:00, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I believe that linking back to the archive and attributing the authors is enough, but as I'm not a lawyer, please don't quote me on this. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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One last thing. If I want to disable account creation on a wiki, will I need to make it public or private? The pages for the two types didn't make it very clear. [[User:Infomercial|Infomercial]] ([[User talk:Infomercial|talk]]) 03:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==wikia monaco help pages transfered to shoutwiki==<br />
If I were to create an xml file of all of the redirected monaco help pages, [http://help.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20101001000000&limit=228&showall=0&contribs=user&target=Uberfuzzy] Once they are added here, I could revert the redirect.<br />
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Would you import them here? I can get all the images also. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:15, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:here is [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B3MLj1JyAiwoZWY1YWZhMWEtNTFjYy00OWZmLWI3MWItMmQwYzIzNjk5NDFh&hl=en an xml file], with all of the redirected pages and full history of those pages. {{subst:User:Anno1404/signature}} 18:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::We won't be importing the old help pages used by Wikia, we'll instead write our own help pages as soon as time permits. Some of the images aren't necessary either (Wikia logo comes to mind) and I have the header button images on my laptop. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Caches ==<br />
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How often are Special Page caches (ex. Uncategorized pages, Wanted pages, Unused categorys) updated? --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 01:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:As a bureaucrat, you can visit [[Special:RefreshSpecial]] on your wiki to update these special pages. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help ==<br />
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Help. I was wondering if you could help fix the problem at [http://wikicars.org/en/Main_Page Wikicars] or at least tell us what the problem is. The logo doesn't show up and the galleries are blank. Please don't you say it is not ShoutWiki. Wikicars is desperate. I beg you to at least help. (My account there is Silver Knight) --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 09:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, firstly...it's not a ShoutWiki wiki, so I have no obligation to help. There are better sources for general MediaWiki help, such as the MediaWiki-l mailing list, MediaWiki.org and the #MediaWiki IRC channel on irc.freenode.net.<br />
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:That being said, I did take a look at it. As soon as I enabled JS debug mode on my IE's developer tools and refreshed the page, the logo showed up and the JS error I saw previously was gone and I was unable to reproduce it.<br />
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:I'd suspect that a part of the problem is that the site is using a [http://wikicars.org/en/Special:Version horribly outdated version of MediaWiki], version 1.6.5, which was released back in 2006...it hasn't been supported for ages and probably has security vulnerabilities (among maaaaaaaany other bugs). [[mw:Version lifecycle|The version lifecycle page on MediaWiki.org]] states that the current, supported version of MediaWiki is 1.'''16'''; version 1.15 will reach its end-of-life in December 2010 and all older versions of MediaWiki are unsupported. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 13:31, 23 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks! :-) Your a life saver. You don't need to go over and fix it, could you simply tell me how I could fix it? --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 03:28, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wikicars wants to merge with Autopedia ==<br />
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[http://wikicars.org/en/User_talk:Red_marquis#Sh.2At Urgent message]. [http://wikicars.org Wikicars] wants to merge with [http://en.auto.shoutwiki.com Autopedia]! Could you please import everything from there? Its got 6000 articles+ --'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 04:36, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== MultipleUpload Error ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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Just thought I'd point this out, though I'm not sure what if anything could be done about it. I was attempting to use [[Special:MultipleUpload]] earlier today and encountered [http://jamahiriya.zxq.net/output.htm this] error. Pressing my back button and retrying succeeded.<br />
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Hope this helps somehow, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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== Steward rights ==<br />
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On [[s:w:auto|Autopedia]] my user account '''Knightrez''' is a steward. I changed my account name to '''Silver Knight'''. Could you please give me back steward rights and remove all Knightrez's three rights? --[[User:Silver Knight|Silver Knight]] ([[User talk:Silver Knight|talk]]) 11:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*Hey there Silver Knight, I have given you the requested Steward rights. But, could you post here or on my talk page using the Knightrez account confirming you want the rights for that account removed? Thank you. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 18:27, 24 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
--'''[[User:Knightrez|Knightrez]]'''<sup>([[User talk:Knightrez|Talk]])</sup> 01:06, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
*and done, thanks... Merry Christmas. --[[User:Jedimca0|'''Jedimca0''']]<staff/><sup>([[User talk:Jedimca0|talk]])</sup> 10:12, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Edit counts==<br />
I have noticed that my edit count (the actual number that i can have on my profile) appears to be any and all edits I have made on Shoutwiki not specific to that wiki. Eg. i have almost 2000 edits on [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Stargate Wiki] and that number also shows up on [http://escyos.shoutwiki.com/wiki/User:Escyos Escyos wiki]. Is there any way to not have that or is that impossible. {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 12:05, 25 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3455User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-22T04:05:06Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
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what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
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great article. <br />
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You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
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http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
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[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Some extensions ==<br />
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Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
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:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
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Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
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I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
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Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
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Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
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::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
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::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nope! Check out our [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ Christmas-themed blog post] to find out more about Monaco! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::oh goody! I was planning to get monacco. Question: Does getting premium only work on one wiki or all whom i reign terror over....i mean admin over? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 23:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Currently we've been planning that a premium feature is a per-wiki thing; i.e. an admin pays for a premium skin (say, Monaco) and the skin is enabled for their wiki so everyone visiting the wiki as an anonymous user or opting in (by [[Special:Preferences|changing their preferences]]) will see that skin on that one wiki. However, as noted in many places earlier, very few details have actually been finalized and pretty much everything is still subject to change. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::cool, ok then. Also I seem to be having a difficulty having the sidebar display what i want it to (as seen [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar here]) it doesnt seem to want to display itself on the actual sidebar. perhaps a glitch? or am i missing something? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Monaco's stuff, such as sidebar and toolbox MediaWiki: messages, are cached for 4 hours. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::ah ok, thanks {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::another annoying question, is the Monaci theme able to be set as the default for everyone unless they choose otherwise (such as anonymous users) or does the theme have to be chosen? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sapphire ==<br />
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How do I change the theme to Monaco sapphire on my wiki? [[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 02:14, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:[[Customer Support Team#Contact us|Contact a member of the customer support team]] or file a bug [http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/ on our Bugzilla] by yourself; remember to mention the wiki's URL. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 02:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3449User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-22T00:21:43Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
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what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
<br />
great article. <br />
<br />
You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
<br />
http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
<br />
[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Some extensions ==<br />
<br />
Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
<br />
Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
<br />
Hi Jack,<br />
<br />
I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
<br />
Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
<br />
I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
<br />
::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
<br />
I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
<br />
Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
<br />
Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
<br />
::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
<br />
::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nope! Check out our [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ Christmas-themed blog post] to find out more about Monaco! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::oh goody! I was planning to get monacco. Question: Does getting premium only work on one wiki or all whom i reign terror over....i mean admin over? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 23:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Currently we've been planning that a premium feature is a per-wiki thing; i.e. an admin pays for a premium skin (say, Monaco) and the skin is enabled for their wiki so everyone visiting the wiki as an anonymous user or opting in (by [[Special:Preferences|changing their preferences]]) will see that skin on that one wiki. However, as noted in many places earlier, very few details have actually been finalized and pretty much everything is still subject to change. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::cool, ok then. Also I seem to be having a difficulty having the sidebar display what i want it to (as seen [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar here]) it doesnt seem to want to display itself on the actual sidebar. perhaps a glitch? or am i missing something? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Monaco's stuff, such as sidebar and toolbox MediaWiki: messages, are cached for 4 hours. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::ah ok, thanks {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3447User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-22T00:12:11Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>{{User talk:Jack Phoenix/header}}<br />
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== extension version ==<br />
<br />
what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
<br />
great article. <br />
<br />
You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
<br />
http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
<br />
[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Some extensions ==<br />
<br />
Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Misza not answering ==<br />
<br />
Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
<br />
Hi Jack,<br />
<br />
I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
<br />
Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
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I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
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Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
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Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
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::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
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::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nope! Check out our [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ Christmas-themed blog post] to find out more about Monaco! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::oh goody! I was planning to get monacco. Question: Does getting premium only work on one wiki or all whom i reign terror over....i mean admin over? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 23:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Currently we've been planning that a premium feature is a per-wiki thing; i.e. an admin pays for a premium skin (say, Monaco) and the skin is enabled for their wiki so everyone visiting the wiki as an anonymous user or opting in (by [[Special:Preferences|changing their preferences]]) will see that skin on that one wiki. However, as noted in many places earlier, very few details have actually been finalized and pretty much everything is still subject to change. Stay tuned! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 00:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::cool, ok then. Also I seem to be having a difficulty having the sidebar display what i want it to (as seen [http://stargate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monaco-sidebar here]) it doesnt seem to want to display itself on the actual sidebar. perhaps a glitch? or am i missing something? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 00:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3445User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-21T23:55:52Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>{{User talk:Jack Phoenix/header}}<br />
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
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what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
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great article. <br />
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You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
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http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
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[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Some extensions ==<br />
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Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
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:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
<br />
Hi Jack,<br />
<br />
I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
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Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
<br />
I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
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Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
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Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
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::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
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::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nope! Check out our [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/12/merry-christmas/ Christmas-themed blog post] to find out more about Monaco! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::oh goody! I was planning to get monacco. Question: Does getting premium only work on one wiki or all whom i reign terror over....i mean admin over? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 23:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3443User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-21T22:16:40Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>{{User talk:Jack Phoenix/header}}<br />
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
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what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
<br />
great article. <br />
<br />
You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
<br />
http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
<br />
[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Some extensions ==<br />
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Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
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:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
<br />
I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
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Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:It isn't really possible to make interwikis for only one wiki due to the way how interwikis are set up. Inter''language'' links, like fr: and en:, are local to one wiki, but everything that isn't a language code (like [[commons:]]; in other words, inter''wiki'' links) are global, in other words, shared between every ShoutWiki wiki. I don't think that this is much of a issue, though, as usually new interwiki prefixes can be global; for example, it's very useful that [[commons:]] interwiki works on all wikis instead of only selected ones. If you want to request a new prefix to be added to the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]], ask me or another staff member and we'll look into it.<br />
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:As for the Special:Invite issue, thanks for the reminder! I'll ask [[User:Misza|Misza]] to enable it for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That makes sense, then. I doubt my requests would be useful for anyone else, so I'll stick to template-plainlinking them instead. Thanks again for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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:::Special:Invite has now been enabled for [[s:w:neukolumbia]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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::If you can't read a CAPTCHA, you can refresh the page to get a new CAPTCHA, one that hopefully is more readable.<br />
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::And I agree with you regarding the e-mail address issue and new wiki creation; I'll poke [[User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] about this whenever he's around. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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I also had alot of problems creating an account. It took me at least 30 tries. One thing to note, the first letter in your username and password MUST be capitalized. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 18:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Passwords do not need to be capitalized, and MediaWiki will automatically capitalize the first letter of your username (i.e. if you tried to register an account called ''john smith'', MediaWiki would transform that into ''John smith'' and your userpage would be at ''User:John smith'', not at ''User:john smith'' and so on). --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Well, it must have been a coincidence that the first time I capitalized the first two letter, account creation worked. Thanks for clarifying that. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We've been importing some wikis listed on our wiki import queue so the imports may have been stressing the server temporarily; sorry about that! We hope that we can do the imports as soon as possible so that everyone can get back to editing their wikis normally. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 10:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It has been incredibly slow for me too. I have averaged between 15 seconds and a minute to load a page. It has made working on my wiki very difficult. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:50, 19 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ice Age 3 Wiki ==<br />
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I have founded an [http://iceagedinosaurs.shoutwiki.com Ice Age 3 Wiki] here and have asked for the content to be imported from my [http://iceagedinosaurs.wikia.com Wikia Wiki]. This was about a week ago and I still don't have my imported pages.<br />
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[[User:Toothless99|Toothless99]] ([[User talk:Toothless99|talk]]) 12:07, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:There is now a dump done, about 5 days ago, so it should be happening soon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::This wiki has now been imported. Happy editing and let me (or another [[Customer Support Team]] member) know if you need any help! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:39, 18 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Cannabis Wiki ==<br />
<br />
Hi. I was wondering how this was coming along:<br />
*http://bugzilla.shoutwiki.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 <br />
<br />
Thanks. --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 06:36, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:The basic rule of thumb is: if it's on our Bugzilla, we're looking into it. This is especially true when it comes to wiki imports; they are our #1 priority right now! Even though we may not reply anything on the actual bug report, we have added your wiki to our internal import queue and it'll be done as soon as possible. There are various factors on which it depends when a wiki is imported; human resources (importing a wiki isn't a press-button-and-sit-back thing, unfortunately; we'd like it to be, though!) and the actual dump (we'd like to use an up-to-date dump instead of using one that is weeks or maybe even months old), for example. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 14:30, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Great! The Dec. 2, 2010 dump is fine:<br />
::http://cannabis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Statistics<br />
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::I have done very little editing since then. Mainly on 2 pages that are regularly updated. I can update those manually without problems. I can fix a lot of problems. I will have to convert the embedded Youtube wikitext on various pages since I believe ShoutWiki uses a different embedding extension. Wikia has messed up their Youtube sizing lately. See [http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:Video_embed_tool#Can_height-to-width_ratio_follow_the_original_Youtube_sizing.3F my comment here]. The video embedding extension ShoutWiki is using does not have this sizing problem. I tested it on my user page: [[User:Timeshifter]].<br />
<br />
::Feel free to add ads in content space. I don't mind as long as they are labeled as ads. I really prefer the wider content space here to Wikia's narrow content space lately. <br />
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::Is it possible for a MediaWiki farm such as ShoutWiki to use a big server host like [http://1and1.com 1and1.com]? --[[User:Timeshifter|Timeshifter]] ([[User talk:Timeshifter|talk]]) 23:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Monacco?==<br />
I am seeing monacco, everywhere! did i have a stroke? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 22:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyoshttp://www.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jack_Phoenix/Archive_3&diff=3348User talk:Jack Phoenix/Archive 32010-12-14T04:00:44Z<p>Escyos: </p>
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<div>{{User talk:Jack Phoenix/header}}<br />
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==Humor/Satrie Category==<br />
I noticed that several humor Wikis are put into the 'Other' category. Since there are several of these types of Wikis like [[Hereticpedia]] or [[Wikihumor]] we should make a 'Humor' or 'Satrie' category. Ktxbai.--[[User:Agent Johnson|Agent Johnson]] ([[User talk:Agent Johnson|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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: I am bringing my creative wikis over and I was thinking the same, I am actually adding three new categories for wikis with original content, just hoping some staff can make them accessible from the createwiki category list. Fan Fiction, creative and Humor are quite thriving categories in wikia [[User:Pegasus|Pegasus]] ([[User talk:Pegasus|talk]]) 08:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thank you both for the suggestions! I've added the three new categories (Creative, fan fiction and humor) to [[MediaWiki:Createwiki-category-list]]. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 19:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
What is the problem with this page? http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1981_World_Junior_Ice_Hockey_Championships The logo and sidebar are all messed up. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
:http://icehockey.shoutwiki.com/w/index.php?diff=210265 --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 03:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks for fixing it, anonymous user! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
Yeah, Thanks! I had no clue what happened. --[[User:Hockeyben|Hockeyben]] ([[User talk:Hockeyben|talk]]) 19:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== extension version ==<br />
<br />
what shoutwiki's version of DPL2 and Semantic MediaWiki or a wiki where they are installed so I can see at [[Special:Version]] --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.53.100|187.153.53.100]] 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:We normally use the branched versions of MediaWiki extensions; once we upgrade to 1.16, we'll be using the versions that can be found on the [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_16_0/ REL1_16_0 branch]. As for DPL, we're offering the [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)|version used by Wikimedia sites]] because the other, [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)|third-party version]] has security vulnerabilities. Currently we have no wikis that would be using either DPL or SMW. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 15:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
==great article==<br />
RE: "Moving your wiki from Wikia to another host (off-Wikia)" http://ashleywiki.blogspot.com/<br />
<br />
great article. <br />
<br />
You maybe interested in this page, which incorporates what you wrote:<br />
<br />
http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation<br />
<br />
[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 00:14, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'm glad that you liked the article! --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 18:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Some extensions ==<br />
<br />
Hi I would like to know of it is possible if the extensions below, could be installed on the HP Wiki. They are very helpful extensions.<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat]]<br />
*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar]]<br />
I hope they will be installed.<br />
I also liked to know if there is a bot of someone wich I that persoon would let work on the Hp wiki. '''[[User:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Samben</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Samben|<span style="color:Red">Talk</span>]]'') 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Quick comments (although usually our [[technical staff|tech team]] reviews extensions before they are installed):<br />
<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CategorySuggest|CategorySuggest]] &mdash; the code is over two years old. I think that explains everything, really.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Link Suggest|Link Suggest]] &mdash; the idea is good, the execution...not really. I'd like to see this same functionality, but implemented in a better way (i.e. typing <nowiki>[[</nowiki> on the textbox on ?action=edit triggers link suggestions). Wikia's LinkSuggest extension isn't usable either, as it uses [[wikipedia:Yahoo! UI Library|Yahoo! User Interface Library (YUI)]] instead of the [[wikipedia:jQuery|jQuery]] JavaScript library. We're planning to write a link suggestion extension that uses jQuery in 2011 (unless someone beats us to it, of course!).<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CustomTitle|CustomTitle]] &mdash; looks like an epic [[wikipedia:Hack (technology)|hack]]. You don't need PHP for this functionality, you can just use [[s:w:darth:Template:Title|Template:Title]] for that. It requires some JavaScript though; let me know if you need help in setting up that template.<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Chat phpFreeChat|Chat phpFreeChat]] &mdash; ugly, probably full of security vulnerabilities and not necessary. We already have [http://irc.shoutwiki.com/ our CGI:IRC client].<br />
:*[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:CSS MenuSidebar|CSS MenuSidebar]] &mdash; this is yet another thing for which you don't need PHP, you just need some JavaScript and some CSS. See [http://www.halopedian.com/Main_Page?useskin=monobook Halopedia] (an off-ShoutWiki wiki) for an example. If you need help in setting this functionality (called MonobookSidebar) up, feel free to contact me or [[User:Ciencia Al Poder|Ciencia Al Poder]], the developer of the MonobookSidebar script.<br />
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:As for the bot question, I'm afraid I didn't understand the question. Can you please rephrase it or ask [[User:Jedimca0|Jedimca0]] in Dutch? --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 23:54, 11 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Misza not answering ==<br />
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Hi, Jack. If you remember, I asked you about the possibility of having a custom domain, and you redirected me to Misza. I [[User_talk:Misza#Question_about_custom_domains|contacted]] Misza a few days ago, and I have still not received an answer: Is there any problem? Maybe should I contact other person? [[User:Scarbrow|Scarbrow]] ([[User talk:Scarbrow|talk]]) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Please give him some time. He's very busy with his real life and wiki imports on ShoutWiki; I'm sure he'll answer your question as soon as possible. You can, if you wish, contact another member of our [[technical staff]], but I'm sure that Misza's the one who can help you most with that question. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] <staff/> <sub>([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|contact]])</sub> 01:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Interwiki and Security Concern ==<br />
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Hi Jack,<br />
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I've a couple questions. First, who would I talk to (if anyone) about making changes to the interwiki map for one of the wikis I manage? Secondly, when I inquired about enabling [[Special:Invite]] on [[s:w:neukolumbia]], you mentioned that you had to re-disable it after enabling it due to a bug. While it's still disabled there, it ''is'' enabled on [[s:w:grossgermania]], so I thought I'd pass it along in case the bug in question was a security concern which should have it disabled.<br />
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Thanks for your time, <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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== Draconian captcha ==<br />
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I accidentally typed a bad password and had a hell of a problem to log in because of unintelligible captchas. I think they may be limiting the growth of the wiki, people are unlikely to join if they cant figure out what is the captcha to create a new account. May be you need a new captcha provider, or consult people if it is a problem only me is having or it is something else<br />
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I also think you may want to make required for wiki starters to have a confirmed email adress. I just discovered that if you lost your password and you cant recover it by email then you are pretty much screwed unless you ask for assistance to a staff member[[User:Dionysus|Dionysus]] ([[User talk:Dionysus|talk]]) 21:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Just my own input on the CAPTCHA matter: I don't think the CAPTCHAs being used here are overly bad; they're much easier (for me) to read than reCAPTCHA ones, or those used by a number of other services. However, a 'refresh' button to provide a new one may be nice. <span style="white-space:nowrap;"><span style="font-family:'Adobe Fangsong Std R','Arial Unicode MS';">&#12294;</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:0.4em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#B40000;">vonPreußen</span>]]''</span><span style="margin:0 -0.5em 0 -0.3em;color:#000;">'''&#65295;'''</span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';position:relative;bottom:-0.25em;font-size:x-small;">''[[User talk:Michael von Preußen|<span style="color:#1A1A1A;">talk</span>]]''</span></span><br />
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==Server speed==<br />
Hello, i have been having some problems with site loads pretty much anywhere on the shoutwiki site, occasionaly i get maybe a page or two before it slows down and simply loads without actually loading. It occurs for me on any of my wikis. Is there some sort of maintenance going on that is slowing them down? {{SUBST:User:Escyos/autosig}} 04:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)</div>Escyos